The Reopening – Live with Raoul Pal & Christophe Ollari

Published on
April 30th, 2020
57 minutes

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The Reopening – Live with Raoul Pal & Christophe Ollari

Live ·
Featuring Christophe Ollari

Published on: April 30th, 2020 • Duration: 57 minutes

The pre-coronavirus world we all thought we knew and understood is gone. The virus has altered both the natural and unnatural order of things. In this new world, central banks behave more like governments than lenders of last resort, political paradigms have shifted to reveal dangerous economic and ideological cleavages among super powers, and monetary/fiscal policy have entered uncharted territory leaving market participants to predict fundamentally unknowable risks for the future. As the world begins to lift restrictions, we are now on the verge of what is arguably the most critical juncture of the post Covid world - the reopening. To understand what may lie ahead, we need thinkers with a proven ability to look far into the future and correctly spot risks, opportunities and pitfalls. For this reason, we have called on Christophe Ollari, founder of Ollari Consulting, and Raoul Pal, CEO & co founder of Real Vision to be our guides on this week's segment of Real Vision Live.



  • JW
    Jon W.
    22 May 2020 @ 10:21
    There are 118 occurrences of "[INAUDIBLE]" in the transcript. Would it be possible to send a copy of the transcript to the interviewees after publication to invite them to search for those occurrences to help fill in the blanks? A subsequently updated transcript would be very valuable for interviews such as this one which would be very much worth revisiting if that could happen.
  • JD
    James D.
    17 May 2020 @ 02:05
    always views but in future skip the audio and focus on getting a good transcript (even in-person interviews are impossible to understand)
  • EH
    Ernest H.
    10 May 2020 @ 06:40
    Despite Christophe's thick accent, the information he's sharing is remarkable.
  • Lv
    Liliane v.
    9 May 2020 @ 00:53
    Thank you for the transcript!!
  • IB
    Ivan B.
    4 May 2020 @ 15:49
    I was listening to this interview wearing a noise cancelling headphones and didn't notice any issues with the sound. Maybe give it a go next time. I think RV team is doing a great job given the circumstances. I didn't expect them to keep producing as much content as they do, definitely delivering in this crazy times. Thank you for all your efforts!
  • MD
    Maureen D.
    4 May 2020 @ 12:08
    Good interview. Sound was not great but not too bad either. Thanks
  • SS
    Shanthi S.
    4 May 2020 @ 10:32
    This was great, despite the agonising audio. Always love Ollari’s take. Can’t wait for the transcript!
  • MB
    Michael B.
    3 May 2020 @ 13:45
    Did he say he had 35% of his portfolio in gold and bitcoin?
    • DS
      David S.
      3 May 2020 @ 17:43
      We will have to wait for the transcript - hopefully Monday or Tuesday. Gold I understood, but the second I could not figure out. DLS
    • DS
      David S.
      3 May 2020 @ 18:27
      I believe Mr. Ollari said 35% of his portfolio is non-check payments assets. This could be precious metals and digital currency. Any other ideas? If the transcript does not make these assets clear, maybe Mr. Pal could follow up and ask in general what is in the 35%. It would be a nice addition to any Daily Briefing. DLS
    • BE
      Benjamin E.
      3 May 2020 @ 20:47
      Haha. Glad I'm not the only one who missed things buried in that french accent.
    • AW
      Andrew W.
      3 May 2020 @ 23:41
      Pretty sure he said 35% in gold and bitcoin.
    • SS
      Shanthi S.
      4 May 2020 @ 10:29
      His mic was awful. Pretty sure as Andrew said, 35% Gold and BTC (would love to know the breakdown) and he referred to them as “non-fiat currencies”... didn’t he?
  • TF
    Thomas F.
    3 May 2020 @ 13:35
    Could you do a video analysing possible routes for trades for a deflation and inflation scenario? Surely helps to be ready when it´s time. Also could be used as a basis for various interviews, seeing how guest agree or disagree to various pathways trading wise...
    • AW
      Andrew W.
      3 May 2020 @ 23:42
      Raoul did this with Hugh Hendry and they agreed that in both cases gold works well (eventually).
  • DM
    Dominic M.
    1 May 2020 @ 20:54
    It's disappointing to have to stop listening due to the sound quality. PLEASE get this sorted out. A $50 mic and a few egg crates would make a world of difference ... I realize RV can't do much about network connections and accents, but the very uneven sound quality of these videos is easy to fix. Not doing so seriously hampers the quality of RV content IMO.
    • RP
      Raoul P. | Founder
      2 May 2020 @ 01:29
      The issue here is Christophe is in Milan in total lockdown, Im in lock down on a small island. Getting Mikes around to people is near impossible...
    • CA
      Craig A.
      3 May 2020 @ 17:47
      Raoul poor excuse. Theres Ebay, Amazon or other platform that will delivery.
  • TF
    Thomas F.
    3 May 2020 @ 13:41
    Would it make sense when refinancing a loan in Europe to see if you can get it from a Italian bank - if the fiscal union splits, that might be devalued. How would you rate the probability? 10%?
  • Lv
    Liliane v.
    1 May 2020 @ 20:37
    I am sure this was incredible content, but as other listeners commented, it was a little tough to follow. A transcript would be fantastic if that's still an option. Thank you
    • JM
      Jonathan M.
      2 May 2020 @ 05:48
      Or at least closed captioning. Perhaps that will be coming.
    • DS
      David S.
      3 May 2020 @ 08:19
      Monday or Tuesday hopefully. DLS
  • VS
    Vafa S.
    3 May 2020 @ 06:29
    What portfolio to build for a non-sophisticated Gen Xer without constant need for trading, is the main Q I would love to figure out !!
  • HS
    Harrison S.
    3 May 2020 @ 04:14
    Please try to get better microphones for your guests or make captions. I could only understand half the words Christophe said
  • YO
    Yoshitaka O.
    3 May 2020 @ 02:19
    Caption please…
  • DS
    David S.
    3 May 2020 @ 00:49
    Great interview. I love how rational Mr. Ollari is. I will keep working as it is worth the effort. DLS
  • ea
    edwin a.
    2 May 2020 @ 21:18
    wonderful interview, with two of my favorites. i think I got every word, though it required heavy use of the 15 second review. Christophe needs better audio, and Raoul could use some improved lighting! ;)
  • DJ
    Dušan J.
    2 May 2020 @ 21:18
    French accent and poor mic make it impossible to understand, please add cc, like this is useless
  • FV
    Ferruccio V.
    2 May 2020 @ 16:32
    Please add the cc function if possible thanks
  • MK
    MOHIT K.
    2 May 2020 @ 09:40
  • MC
    Mike C.
    2 May 2020 @ 09:30
    Great interview Raoul despite the sound quality (it wasn't that bad). It's very refreshing to hear non Anglo-US centric points of views. 2 questions: 1.) Do you still think gold looks through the imminent spike in real rates? 2.) When you get questions about Canada can you please include Australia? This interview was at 1am Sydney time. Canada and Australia share very similar dynamics. Thanking you again for truly excellent content.
  • AS
    Ash S.
    2 May 2020 @ 06:04
    Sound for Christophe is difficult. I'll stop and hope for the transcript. Thanks team!
  • JA
    JOSE A.
    1 May 2020 @ 21:55
    Excellent content. The quality of the video is bad. Please do provide the transcripts. Thanks
  • SM
    Shantanu M.
    1 May 2020 @ 21:18
    This is the kind of discussion I like RV for, peculiar ideas and thought process, Audio quality wasn't great but I could still understand what was being said. Nevertheless please do provide the transcripts.
  • TP
    Tom P.
    1 May 2020 @ 20:31
    Great content. This is what it is (was?) like on a trading desk in London. Thick accents. Someone banging about in the background. Constant technological interruptions. But most importantly, bright people bouncing ideas around. Loved it.
  • VP
    Vaughn P.
    1 May 2020 @ 17:54
    Agree with the comment of the accent. Too bad, I am sure there was value there but could not get there fast enough
  • CZ
    Christoph Z.
    1 May 2020 @ 16:07
    a simple headset might make a huge difference instead of going through the speakers/mic of the laptop - it would be great to have this as a prerequisite/recommendation for all guests
  • TP
    Timothy P.
    1 May 2020 @ 15:00
    I tried, but honestly Mr Ollari's accent was too thick for me to parse smoothly. I'd be happy to revisit this if it gets subtitles, though or some AI-genned transcript that would be easier to read.
  • BM
    Beth M.
    1 May 2020 @ 14:47
    Please provide the transcript as soon as you can. TIA