A year has passed since the epic discussion between Michael Saylor and Raoul, a conversation that helped change many people’s lives. Raoul spends 90 mins to get an in-depth update on Michael’s thoughts on bitcoin, bitcoin mining, what he has learned in the last 12 months, and how the space is evolving. Michael is rightly focused on the new regime at the SEC and what it might mean for the larger digital asset space where Gensler has made it clear that most projects should be considered securities and regulated. Raoul and Michael dig into what the implications are and where the risks and opportunities might lie and how, therefore, the space might evolve. It is an important conversation, and regulation is something everyone should begin to better understand. Filmed on September 15, 2021.