Bond Market Secrets: Offsetting Asymmetric Downside Risk

Published on
January 15th, 2020
33 minutes

Bond Market Secrets: Offsetting Asymmetric Downside Risk

The Expert View ·
Featuring Gershon Distenfeld

Published on: January 15th, 2020 • Duration: 33 minutes

Gershon Distenfeld co-heads a fixed-income team at AllianceBernstein that manages over $300 billion in assets. He joins Real Vision to discuss how the high-yield credit space can function as an alternative to the stock market and why the best bond investors focus on avoiding losers rather than picking winners. He underscores the importance of fixed-income diversification and gives his thoughts on leveraged loans, collateralized mortgage obligations (CMOs), and collateralized loan obligations (CLOs). Filmed on January 10, 2020, in New York.



  • RM
    Ryan M.
    26 January 2020 @ 01:43
    How much of quoted HY performance is due to the 50 year bull market we've had in fixed income? Lol. Leverage is great when tailwinds are at your back!!
    • RM
      Ryan M.
      26 January 2020 @ 01:45
      40 year bull market**
  • KD
    Kaj D.
    23 January 2020 @ 09:26
    This just may be the best discussion that I've ever heard on risk allocation / incorporating bonds into one's investment portfolio. Thanks Gershon
  • SC
    Sam C.
    22 January 2020 @ 15:06
    Interesting to watch this after Dan Rasmussen. Totally different views.
  • JM
    Jennifer M.
    20 January 2020 @ 14:10
    This episode made me want to be a bond trader when I grow up. You can now officially call a top in the bond bubble, rates globally going to 5% :)
  • bm
    brian m.
    20 January 2020 @ 07:04
    That music is horrendous
  • AR
    Anthony R.
    19 January 2020 @ 22:05
    Very articulate guy. I've always been 'equities' biased - learned a lot.
  • NB
    Nidhi B.
    18 January 2020 @ 01:12
    Amazing interview!!
  • PG
    Philippe G.
    17 January 2020 @ 15:08
    Excellent - learned quite a bit!
  • SL
    Seth L.
    16 January 2020 @ 17:44
    Anyone have a link to the whitepapers referenced early on in the interview?
  • SW
    Suzanne W.
    16 January 2020 @ 15:29
    Super interesting and enlightening interview. I learned so much - thank you.
  • ET
    Eduard T.
    16 January 2020 @ 04:35
    Great, thanks! Very good interview
  • GS
    Gurpreet S.
    16 January 2020 @ 01:18
    my man!
  • BB
    Bob B.
    15 January 2020 @ 22:01
    I'm confused on his timelines. At the end he expounds on having a long time horizon for fixed income yet much of is talk is about monitoring risks and re-balancing portfolios as risks and opportunities change. To me that implies activity trading to some degree.
  • DS
    David S.
    15 January 2020 @ 21:06
    As an aside, Mr. Kudlow announced Tax Cut 2.0 will be on the Republican platform for president Trump's reelection campaign. Any tax cut that will increase the federal deficit - they all will - is just another form of MMT. This is why I am unable to think about long-term stock or bond investing. Good luck to all of you who must stay invested. Follow Mr. Distenfeld's advice for bottom-up investing, diversification and avoiding losers. DLS
  • CB
    Chris B.
    15 January 2020 @ 20:15
    Awesome interview - one of the best in a while.
  • SG
    Sven G.
    15 January 2020 @ 15:22
    the guy made a lot of good points, well thought out and articulated... then he sneezed in my soup :( (he says " I dont really believe in cycles")
  • SW
    Scott W.
    15 January 2020 @ 14:21
    Clearly a master in this space. As a non-financial, I greatly appreciate Gershon's insights and general guidance regarding how to approach bond investing because such nuance is sadly lacking for retail participants (IMHO).
  • JB
    Jon B.
    15 January 2020 @ 13:12
    Really helpful insight
  • HK
    H K.
    15 January 2020 @ 10:47
    hah - good take on the daily tick-by-tick liquidity of the wrapper while the underlying takes weeks to process
  • PU
    Peter U.
    15 January 2020 @ 10:34
    Classic WS speak