This is your chance to benefit from an exchange of ideas between two brilliant modern thinkers. Mike Green, chief strategist and portfolio manager at Simplify Asset Management, is a well-known Bitcoin bear. On the other hand, Robert Breedlove, founder of the “What Is Money?” podcast, is one of its most vehement proponents. Their contrasting views stem from fundamental differences in their frameworks for understanding how societies and economies should be organized. Real Vision senior editor Ash Bennington moderates this fiery debate between Breedlove and Green on the roles of money and the state. The discussion begins on Bitcoin and weaves into larger political and socio-economic topics within which Bitcoin could play a significant role. Recorded on January 7, 2022.