Noble goals? They want the rules to apply only to the masses. They want to control the regulatory system by staffing humans who they can corrupt and control with their defunct ideologies.

The more companies/people adopt Bitcoin the safer it becomes, Thanks Michael Saylor and thanks to Elon Musk for adding an extra layer of security to the blockchain.

Erik is so dang thoughtful and smart. He's been a light in the space for a long time. I'd love to see RV have him on again.

Quant Network is interoperability, Raoul knows !

Great information. Thank you, Raoul for educating people on the next technological revolution. Very exciting times, indeed!

One of your best guests so far!

A breath if fresh air. I have loved Erik's perspective for years. Having been in crypto since 2011 I remember buying and selling on bitcointalk.org. I pay my plumber in crypto. It is definitely incumbent to promote and build out "our" own system. Every day we get stronger and they get weaker. Erik supplies a much needed focus on the ethos. The whole reason for crypto is not found in charts. It is found in the desire of the human heart to be free. Humanity can only be free with sound money. Millennials are now the largest demographic in the US. The boomers are fading fast. (disclosure I am a boomer) Boomers are analog and the younger generations are digital. Most boomers cannot make the leap. I encourage all the younger people to embrace not only the financial aspects of crypto but the ethos as well. The future belongs to the young and totalitarianism is creeping ever faster. Thanks Erik

Great survey of the crypto landscape, implications, pitfalls and promisses.

Dear easily offended by facts - this post contains them. You've been warned... RV Crypto -- all "Bitcoin Maximalists" all "Tribalism" every time. I don't know why Raoul enjoys perpetuating the slur coined by ETH founder Vitalik Buterin, but I suspect it has to do with his holdings at this point, having exhausted any other probable motivation. Erik makes good points about crypto and Bitcoin, because he's been around for a long time - as have I. My only problem is Real Vision doesn't inform their users about the history of their guests - whether its a badly-performing hedge fund manager, or in this case, someone who has had a checkered past in crypto. TOXIC FACTS SECTION - WARNING - FACTS MAY BE FOUND HERE: Preamble: I judge people by the company they keep. Erik has been friends with and in the company of Charlie Shrem and Roger Ver, (... and more bad actors in the space.) 1. Charlie Shrem served time in jail for malfeasance due to transfers to Mt Gox 2. Roger Ver, a former convict of the California Prison System who has also been involved in a mimicry attack (among other activities) against Bitcoin 3. Erik made several appearances on the "Bruce Wagner Show" - and individual who eventually did a runner with funds during the "Bitcoinica" scam 3. Erik himself has had a large fine from the SEC due to soliciting US Citizens improperly for a funding scheme 4. Erik was part of the "New York Agreement" a cabal of miners and influencers determined to undermine the deployment of Segwit - which ultimately failed 5. Erik was the founder of Satoshi Dice - and while Raoul found this aspect of illegal gambling funny, here's a few technical details why his operation was harming Bitcoin in the early days: (Courtesy of Greg Maxwell, BTC Dev) a) Satoshi didn't forsee the non-economic-to-spend-txout problem b) A solution was formulated, but would be perceived as an "attack" on SatoshiDice (Thanks, Erik!) c) Satoshi Dice produced outputs that cost more to spend than they are worth (The number of transactions isn't what is important to scaling - the number of OUTPUTS is.) d) Satoshi Dice produced "dust" that bogged down the blockchain (Approx 48% of blockchain storage at the time was being used by this operation - a clear abuse.) e) While the miners don't care, it costs the whole network by pushing those externalities to the user f) Using the blockchain as a communication channel (Which is what SD did) was a horrible way to use a shared resource 6. One of Erik's companies was in the "Panama Papers" dump, which was used to expose those who used a shady legal scheme to conceal shell companies. He of course claims innocence to this allegation. Erik isn't pure as driven snow, and the people he associates with are of a quality that I find -- as charitably as I can put it -- "Dubious" at best. END OF TOXIC FACTS SECTION I just wish Real Vision would use their moniker as I expect - vetting guests and telling their users about their prior financial shennanigans before foisting them on crypto/financial newbies. Enjoy.

Raoul @ 46.40. "the faster we build it out the harder it is to stop". https://ehrdata.com/

His comment/analogy at minute 34 about why video chat works but money doesn't was like a bomb going off.

I would love to see Raoul interview Andreas Antonopoulos. I would pay good money to see it.

Thanks fellas, excellent exchange of information. All the best to Erik w Shapeshift. UNI to the moon!

Successful CBDCs will be anonymized like Monero. Similar game theory to BTC geographical bans. Censorship immunity and finite supply also have the same game theory. CBDCs that lack one or more of those features will lose to CBDCs that have all 3. For more info on this game theory, I’m at @Bridge_Monetary and on the Bridge Monetary Policy podcast.

pegnet.org, next big dex and foundatiion for deFi. has every govt fiat as stablecoins, crypto, commodities, and more to be added as it grows. eth gateway in testing NOW and working as intended. securing chainlink oracles with PoW, scaling UniSwap with 1/10 cent conversions, no collateral or counterparties, no ceo, no ico, regulaton proof. lots to get excited about with the continued development of the pegnet

From an international relations theory perspective - multipolar worlds are never great due to the security dilemma and increased conflict and competition, but actually this period we find ourselves in now actually should allow Bitcoin enough space to survive a government or organised globalist agenda ban; the prisoner dilemma is much higher and so should allow continued adoption. If Bitcoin came about during the Cold War or even the early 90’s the story could be different. I agree with Erik that in the long run, freedom and Liberty win out - let’s hope not too many people become victims to this transition... a bloodless revolution would be such a high watermark for humanity.

Disagree that this is just a walk down the memory lane. Eric talked about how regulation might play out which is quite valuable, the big picture ahead... Always a great experience to listen to such a candid person

I believe (I may be wrong) that to some extent the next step of DEX exists already in the form of Curve where you can switch both stablecoins and bitcoin/ethereum (wrapped or unwrapped) with very low slippage and min fees due to it being an AMM and DEX. Of course you can't buy with fiat but it is one of the best liquidity pools for swapping stablecoins and other forms (so I have heard). Would like to hear more on this.

I believe (I may be wrong) that to some extent the next step of DEX exists already in the form of Curve where you can switch both stablecoins and bitcoin/ethereum (wrapped or unwrapped) with very low slippage and min fees due to it being an AMM and DEX. Of course you can't buy with fiat but it is one of the best liquidity pools for swapping stablecoins and other forms (so I have heard). Would like to hear more on this.

Agree with so much Erik says. Top guy! Disagree in part with the idea that code is king and that it is our great saviour. I like the idea and want to believe the narrative. However, I guess it all comes down to who is coding and what code they're writing. Same with any future AI and robot saviours. I still think we're a ways away from the futurism dream expressed in Iain M. Banks' awesome novels: the idea that benevolent, all-seeing and perfect AIs will guide us and protect us in everything we do. It's a fantastic idea, but how can we write amazing code like this when there's so much injustice in so much of the current world infrastructure. So many people still can't get along.

Would love to see Raoul's art collection.

My vote for best video 2021 so far and perhaps ever

For those who can't keep up with it all (No faults for that, the technology is advancing at a rapid pace) Here's is a cheat sheet of the top DeFi projects in the space. Ethereum (ETH) the network protocol that DeFi runs on Chainlink (LINK) industry standard Oracle service that powers DeFi AAVE (AAVE) decentralized "bank" where you can deposit your crypto as collateral and take out loans (or gain interest on your deposits) Yearn Finance (YFI) A protocol where one can deposit tokens or stablecoins to earn a yield on them. Compound Finance (COMP) decentralized "bank" Balancer (BAL) Liquidity pools to swap between different tokens Curve Finance (CRV) liquidity pools to swap between different stable coins i,e, USDC, USDT, DAI Thorchain (RUNE) interoperability chain Uniswap (UNI) Decentralized exchange. Swap between different tokens on the ETH network Sushiswap (SUSHI) Decentralized exchange similar to uniswap. Uniswap was the first. Sushiswap offers monetary incentives through their token to attract liquidity 1inch (1INCH) Decentralized exchange aggregator. Swapping tokens on here gives the best available price between all decentralized exchanges and liquidity pools. Synthetix (SNX) Derivatives liquidity pool offering users synthetic exposure to a wide range of assets Take the time to learn about these projects and you will be pretty astounded at what you can do right now in DeFi.

Not much interesting content for me in this one, sort of a walk down memory lane and general discussion that seems like it's been hashed about already a few times.

Quite ironic how the bankers always say BTC is used for terrorism and crime and then they get caught laundering trillions for criminals. Its no wonder why everyone is opting out of their system.

Raoul mentioning $QNT was impressive (to me). Nice. Thanks - great interview Raoul and Erik, Interesting comments by Timothy P below??

For anyone who wants to know more about BitInstant and Erik and the Winklevoss Twins falling out, I would read Ben Mezrich's book Bitcoin Billionaires. Comes from the Winklevii perspective but is very entertaining. Erik is prominently featured in the book

Eric needs to research $QNT Quant Network has already solved enterprise Interoperability at scale between all networks. Legacy, DLT, and future tech.

Erik, you really should look into Quant - unrivalled credentials to connect government and legacy finance to the new decentralised world. Already working with central banks, and hundreds of commercial banks throughout Europe

Am I the only one totally disturbed by Raoul's background? Where is my favorite pool, bar and dog. God damn. Nothing great lasts forever.

Erik has sci-fi paperbacks in his bookshelf. I like him already.

This was an exceptional interview. Eric did not shy away from the complaints people have, but rather gave reasonable responses to helping people understand. My vote: Eric should become one of RV's regular interviewees.

Interoperability for EVERYTHING is solved without adding additional overhead, chokepoints or vendor Lock-in. The CEO of Quant network ,Gilbert Verdian was on Real Vision https://www.realvision.com/shows/the-interview-crypto/videos/enabling-enterprise-adoption-pushing-crypto-into-the-mainstream covers the basics Then get Redpilled on Overledger and Quant network with this community resource: quantpedia.org

what's the name of the protocol working on large scale cross chain solutions? I couldn't quite make out the name? Forching?

Two of the most articulate people in the cryptosphere sharing ideas at a deep philosophical level; it doesn't get much better than this. Eric made a really fascinating point about many features of our banking system being an atavistic legacy of the days when the primary function of a bank was to act as a vault for the deposit of monetary metals. That is a brilliant insight that is so true of many of the systems that we utilise today. For example, the QWERTY configuration on your computer keyboard is only that way because it was the standard configuration of a typewriter keyboard, which was configured to make typing as SLOW as possible, in order to avoid the phenomena of the mechanical arms crossing over and hitting one another. However, just as we're all still QWERTY-based, we're still using SWIFT, which is cracking 50 years old. Absolutely bonkers!

I always enjoy watching Erik's interviews. He's a great advocate for the space. His debate with Peter Schiff is very good and pretty funny at times. Cheers Erik & Raoul

Mr. Vorhees continues to be one of the most-informed and insightful folks in the industry. His dispassionate advocacy is truly inspiring.