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EÃBitcoin passes 20k while I'm watching this.
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MKCurious why they didn't comment on the asteroid mining they said Elon Musk was going to do in the future when looking at the investment case for gold? (See The Dave Portnoy/Barstool interview with Tyler & Cameron earlier this year)
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MRAs a result of watching your video with the Winklevoss brothers I opened an account with Gemini. I can't go into details here, but the company is completely unprofessional. My account was frozen when I tried to link my bank with the site. I then wired funds. I have called and emailed dozens of times over the last 2 weeks, with no response. Customer service is non-existent. I can't get access to my funds. I think your viewers should know about Gemini and be warned.
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KGRaoul talks about the "wall of money" and the opportunity at hand even at current prices. My question is what happens next? What happens as BTC goes up and the no-brainer killer 10X - 20X scenario dwindles? Will it just keep going to infinity and beyond or just plateau? Bottom line: as the title says, it's a TRADE. So, when to SELL is the question. Isn't everybody already thinking in terms of how much fiat they will have when they sell? The government taxes all but a few transactions; and although all of us are disgusted with what they do with our money, nobody really would want to defund the government. Seems like the government will just make all crypto not Legal Tender requiring what we all are already planning to do.
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TTWhat does Gemini a custodial service that provides no interest for holding their coin think about companies like BlockFi?
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LHNot your keys, not your Crypto. Don't be fooled. Educate yourself and hold your crypto on your own wallet. At the moment, Trezor T is the best in my opinion. Anyone who says "one stop shop" is trying to be your bank. The ENTIRE point of crypto is to be your own bank. Again, please educate yourself.
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MAWill there be subtitles available in other languages? Would love to show some of these vids to my parents.
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TBGreat interview. Keep up the great work Tyler and Cameron. I was at your Keynote in San Jose in 2013 -- "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." When you're looking for new tokens to add to Gemini, take a look at Ravencoin. I'd suggest backing off on cheering the concept of Central Bank inspired "behavioral incentives" with targeted stimulus and interest rates targeted by individual. That's a terrifying concept, and the wrong use for programmable money.
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BBLoved it. Winklevoss are a good example where 2 brains are better than one. Still spooky how they both start to talk but then just one finishes the answer. No talking over each other.
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CAGreat interview!
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WvUnfortunate that all three put a lot of trust into the engineers of fiat money to rule a CBDC system well. They cannot even balance full employment versus inflation. How would they ever be able to set the price of money in a way that is optimal for the economy. Money is a good like every other as well. Manipulating its supply has consequences some of which are the thing that they all rightly identify like debt, inflation, booms, and busts etc.
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MKThese are the guys that said Elon is going to be mining asteroids (see Dave Portnoy interview)? They made it on RV?!
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MSWIshing for a deeper talk about the micro-stock media industry & NFTs. When Raul asked about Getty Images, the answer was indirect. Makes sense, but I wanna know more about who plans to build a new platform like that
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JPI’m 55 (near-Boomer) and I certainly get it! I am slowly moving my friends toward the same thinking.
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CDGreat interview, super thankful for this content. Tons of value about the space. One thing I need to say though is...Tyler & Cameron, please give us something better to trade on! Start with incorporating Tradingview and add from there. I want to move more capital there but man is it outdated. Even Bittrex is more adequate. Aside from my rant, thanks again for the interview, I view Gemini as elite in the space.
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ANIn Europe , Romania gave it a go and uses Blockchain solutions to monitor National Elections.
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FLGiving different interest rates based on who the individual is or giving incentives on where you spend your money is a nightmare scenario. Amazed that anyone on this panel sees this as a positive .
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rtMarin Katusa's article "The Bitcoin Gurus Are Using a Flawed Formula" Great interview! And love your work in general, and really appreciate your efforts with Real Vision! I know everyone is big on the Stock2Flow method of valuing Bitcoin. I personally have a lot of my liquid net worth in Bitcoin and other cryptos and I wanted to investigate how this works. I' m also an engineer so I tried to find the nuts and bolts. I'm also a big fan of Marin Katusa (an entrepreneur and mathematician) and ran across his article entitled "The Bitcoin Gurus Are Using a Flawed Formula". In it he states that he is bullish on Bitcoin, but he debunks the use of the S2F model by stating that the cross asset data for gold and silver was cherry picked from December 2019, and does not fit the overall data set of pricing. Also the data for Bitcoin is not based on price, but on phase transition and therefore does not predict price but future phase transitions which may or may not occur. Any thoughts? Link below to the article... https://katusaresearch.com/the-bitcoin-gurus-are-using-a-flawed-formula/#s2fxmodel
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SVWhile I agree with Tyler & Cameron regarding custody not being a problem and rather being viewed as desirable by 90+% of the people, the reasoning of "not your keys, not your coins" is not that anyone would distrust Gemini (or any other custodian for that matter), but rather more the concern that the government could force them to freeze your funds and then you don't have access to it, despite it being locked up perfectly secure. Basically the same problem with the banks in Cypress back in 2008, which Bitcoin and the ability of self custody solved. Great interview and really liked the outlook of where the industry is going!
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BGFantastic interview Raoul, thank you!
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SMPlug for Gemini? And we have to pay for this?
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MOThere is this narrative that BTC will replace gold. I would like to see the evidence of that. Perhaps an interview with someone who can provide a counter narrative of BTC replacing gold.
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AF@Raul great interview! I am a 27 year old engineer and as soon as I heard about bitcoin, it made complete sense. I truly feel that the attitude towards money will change and with that the world for the better. I am currently building a sustainable farm in rural Uganda. This tech would help so many, so thank you for the twins and Gemini for looking into this and trying to make it more accessible for the poorest in the world. I'll be waiting :)
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BKWow !!! thats my comment, even said backwards Wow !!! ....Raoul , thank you.
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ABReal Vision should change its name to Bitcoin Bros. The platform has went from covering far ranging topics to cheerleading an asset that will end up looking like yahoo.com
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ASFelicitaciones!! Great interview Raoul. I am a gold bug, but this is fascinating. Scarcity is even better than gold and BTC industry is just starting. I have had two "aha moments" recently. The 1st after seeing o film where Steve Wozniak showed a folder with the original code of apple operating system without any blots. He said he just doesn't know how he did those thousands of code lines w/o errors. For me just a divine inspiration to bring computers to humanity. The 2nd moment, this week after seeing your interview in Kitco news. BTC is a way for people to begin saving again and deposit the hard earned money into a store of value specially in troubled countries getting away of debt based economy that slave people and widens wealthy gap. Just another gift to humanity.
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VDblockchain is a time stamping mechanism to reduce double spend it does not enforce scarcity
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PZExcellent interview and incredibly valuable content! Thank you, Raoul. My Bitcoin and cryptocurrency knowledge is increasing logarithmically at this point.
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SSBTW I liked that I think Tyler mentioned that some boomers get it. I think I might be one of them...I own bitcoin now and continue to buy more every week. I’m 67 now and maybe I will make my 53 your old wife a bitcoin millionaire...I find the whole crypto space very exciting.
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sdGreat content - appreciated
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AWThe best interview with the twins I have seen to date. Excellent work Raoul.
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VDalthough gemini might have better security than the average person they also have greater risk due to the regulatory hammer that could prevent them from sending to a personal wallet and the honeypot of their massive stash
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DTAt the end everyone discussed fractions of Bitcoin and seemed unsure what to call them...aren't they Satoshis?
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JCThe problem is the twins are BTC Gemini salespeople and don't look at the issues from the perspective of reality. "Not your keys, not your coin" is the mantra about the government being able to seize or freeze your coins on exchanges for a variety of reasons. The twins know that very well (they even talked about Cyprus seizing everyones money), but they responded to the question with nonsense about how they could not get hacked and would not steel your money (obviously!). Raoul, always the gentleman, did not challenge them on this. These are bad people to interview because the uninformed that watch this interview will draw twisted conclusions from important facts. To illicit the correct response, I think Raoul should have posed the phrase as "NOT YOUR KEYS, THE GOVERNMENTS COIN"
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TEThanks @raoul. The one I was waiting for. Very enjoyable and enlightening.
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DPThese guys are very calm and rational. Excellent discussion.
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PKGreat conversation
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CGHow is appreciation (capital appreciation?) handled? Can Gemini work with IRAs?
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VMExcellent. What great young men. Agree re getting crypto into third world.
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JHReally enjoyed this one, many great points made. Thank you guys.
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TRSuperb interview!
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MSFun!!!
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SSFreaking Awesome interview/discussion
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CHExcellent big picture view. The opportunity before us is huge.
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VDin the art example the blockchain proves that an item was produced after another item and the private keys can transfer its ownership to another but scarcity is determined by the issuer...at any point a new duplicate image could be issued
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CFI wonder what happens to exchanges like this if/when there is an ETF. At least for BTC I think most ppl would be happy to buy/hold BTC on their Schwab account vs. going to gemini, CB, etc.
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TWFabulous interview! I hit rewind several times.
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MMSoon nobody will talk about holding Bitcoin, only about "Stacking Sats (Satoshis)".
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MMAnybody with internet access can get access to PHYSICAL gold now. Gemini itself has PaxGold. Personally, I use the Kinesis.money platform for holding blockchained physical gold.
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MMIf the Government wants to slow down BTC it could coordinate with all IMF countries to raise the declared value of the Government Treasury gold certificates held on the balance sheets of Cental Banks. If they raise the price high enough it could significantly lower the debt/GDP numbers. That along with monetary tightening could slow BTC...not forever...but maybe long enough for Governments to build up their BTC reserves.
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EGI think it would be entertaining to ask those you interview when BTC will reach a trillion in market cap. Impossible question of couse, but I like watching the smartest guys in the room react to impossible questions. Perhaps open a betting pool on Realvision. Another one is what will be the US debt to GDP (currently 135%) in 2025. Excellent interview, Thank you.
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MMre CBDCs: Central Banks could create national crypto exchanges and then code their CBDC so that it can only be traded on the National Exchange. Then the government could charge a fee on the crypto anyone buys. For example, if one buys BTC with their CBDC they would be charged a fee in BTC by the National Exchange.
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JDCan anyone tell me why $MSTR is so much more volatile than BTC? Is it because people can short $MSTR but not BTC?
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TPSo refreshing when guests "get it". Even more so when they put their money where their mouth is and try to provide services that enable on/off ramps to the legacy system. Innovators always get ridiculed until the truth is "obvious". Their assertion that BTC could evolve into 500k USD per unit isn't off the wall either. There's a reason that Michael Saylor did, and others. They understand that taking out loans or using 'bad' fiat money to buy 'good' digital currency is the move to make. You get to enjoy low interest rates on crap money so you can buy the ultimate inflation hedge. Sounds like a good arb to me. Its like the "Big Short" where very few understood the big picture - and enriched themselves for their insight.
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VDtest
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KPFor some reason I felt raoul gave more to think than the brothers. Good conversation