Bill Erbey: The “Renaissance Man” of Entrepreneurship

Published on
August 14th, 2020
43 minutes

Bill Erbey: The “Renaissance Man” of Entrepreneurship

The Interview ·
Featuring William Erbey

Published on: August 14th, 2020 • Duration: 43 minutes

Bill Erbey, CEO of Salt Pond Holdings, is an entrepreneurial "renaissance man," who for over 30 years has driven major change in areas ranging from energy to mortgage finance to internet technology. He tells Real Vision managing editor Ed Harrison about his storied career spanning multiple disciplines and gives a deep dive on his patented solution to decongest the internet. Erbey discusses his latest ventures in cryptocurrency and medical technology and tells Harrison about his philanthropic efforts in education, which lead to the formation of Filmed on August 12, 2020.



  • AL
    Andrew L.
    20 August 2020 @ 17:51
    Commentary about push vs pull nature sounds like a very interesting axis of thinking in general for questioning entrenched paradigms. In the routing example I am still scratching my head as to what it means. Perhaps letting clients determine routing rather than the network layer??
  • sc
    sung c.
    17 August 2020 @ 03:50
    Wonderful interview, enlightening information, mind expanded. Thank you!
  • NM
    Nicholas M.
    16 August 2020 @ 23:21
    Q for you Bill, do you use blockchain technology as part of you analytics / solutions?
  • SC
    Sejong C.
    16 August 2020 @ 22:00
    I get the motive behind the part regarding kidney disease, but fluid support in patients with renal function deterioration (I am thinking acute kidney injury) is crucial. The kidney is supported by both blood flow and urine flow, and the approach I heard in this interview is puzzling. Well, I suppose the medical advisors on that venture supported it, so it would be interesting to see that come through. What I want to say, is that looking at the kidney and comparing it to the internet data congestion problem is very worrisome. I suppose it is always good to have a fresh pair of eyes look into things, but this case is questionable.
  • SS
    Sheldon S.
    16 August 2020 @ 21:22
    Great interview!!!!!! More like Bill, please.
  • SU
    Shakeel U.
    16 August 2020 @ 15:29
    I found Ed summary at the start, to be very helpful and a great way to introduce the interview 😀
  • FC
    Frank C.
    16 August 2020 @ 03:51
    This is the guy I want to be when I grow up! Thank you RV for bringing him to the platform!
  • mc
    miroslaw c.
    14 August 2020 @ 06:42
    Bill is bsing a lot when he says watching 8k videos by x number of people will overwhelm the ibternet yet he did not mention the multicasting technology at all. Alao the refrences the internet still using routing protocols from when internet was first designed, neglects to mention the advancements in routing protocols over tge years. Hello Cisco and Juniper...
    • VK
      Vaclav K.
      14 August 2020 @ 15:45
      I am skeptical as well. If their algo is so good. Why are they publishing it through patent? The best stuff is usually just kept secret until sale. The electric motor algo seems even more unlikely. But it is good that people are trying things.
    • JC
      Jason C.
      16 August 2020 @ 01:13
      I'm always skeptical of people who advertise their patents instead of actual business results because most patents never become profitable. I'm just assuming/hoping RV did some appropriate vetting here. What I've found online seems to suggest he made his money in the subprime mortgage crisis and not in these other companies. Still an interesting interview though
  • JC
    Jason C.
    16 August 2020 @ 00:48
    I suppose this isn't what real vision is really for, but more entrepreneurship content like this would be very cool. But please no Gary Vee...
  • MH
    Muddshir H.
    15 August 2020 @ 19:39
    Good interview ed
  • EM
    Eivind M.
    14 August 2020 @ 16:44
    Nothing groundbreaking here. Seems a bit weird that Erbey believes crypto payment systems and clever streaming and routing algorithms need re-inventing. Seems to me that there are a lot of more insightful macro thinkers that would have deserved this spot more. Sorry to go on and on about Jeff Snider, but he really deserves a proper long format interview with Ed, Raoul or even Hugh Hendry imo. He has so many interesting contrarian views on the situation for banks, money markets, central banks and bonds, and he hasn't (to my knowledge) made a wrong call yet since 2009.
    • AT
      ALAN T.
      14 August 2020 @ 19:06
      I absolutely agree about Jeff Snyder. There is no one quite like Jeff out there as far as I can tell. Brent Johnson might be a good choice to conduct the interview as well. I think there is some overlap with his dollar views and Jeff's central themes. Ed always tracks so closely and asks such great questions, so for me that would be a good choice as interviewer.
    • DS
      David S.
      14 August 2020 @ 20:29
      We can have both. DLS
    • MH
      Matthew H.
      15 August 2020 @ 17:58
      +1 Jeff. His Podcast is the place to go.
  • TB
    Tobin B.
    15 August 2020 @ 14:16
    Great interview. Completely agree that education is lacking. That's why I'm here, learning from those that actually do.
  • MD
    Matt D.
    15 August 2020 @ 02:51
    Fascinating interview Ed. Brilliant. Amazing guest - so many interesting insights. from kidneys to education. Never realised the kidney industry was so big (or important). Education could be disrupted big time - yet the job losses. Thanks Bill and Ed. Be nice to see him back.
  • DS
    David S.
    14 August 2020 @ 20:37
    We need to give all entrepreneurs a big hand from the hot dog stand to high tech innovations. They are a rare breed who have the idea, develop the idea, fund the idea, promote the idea taking the losses with the gains. Then start up another business. My hat off to all of them. Entrepreneurs are the game. The markets only place bets on who will win. DLS
  • DF
    Douglas F.
    14 August 2020 @ 17:35
    Mr. Erbey constantly refers to obtaining patents meaning he is not an entrepreneur but a rent seeker using government force to make his fortune. Ed, you and RV viewers may want to watch this Bob Murphy interview with Stephan Kinsella on the Illegitimacy of Intellectual Property.
    • DS
      David S.
      14 August 2020 @ 20:27
      There is always a balance. When you come up with a brilliant idea that needs time to develop into a business you will understand patent protection. I hope you do. Then the light bulb will turn on. DLS
  • EL
    Edward L.
    14 August 2020 @ 20:10
    Great interview. Ed has a way of turning the conversation toward the worthwhile, interesting and novel -- and this guy has plenty to talk about. Usefully applying science from the various disciplines, and knowledge in general, amidst the ongoing informational welter, turmoil and overload of today's world, is one of our toughest challenges. This guy shows how creative application of what we already do understand -- often crossing from one field to a different and seemingly unrelated one -- can yield all kinds of good stuff. Inspiring and off the beaten Real Vision path. Thanks!
  • JS
    Jon S.
    14 August 2020 @ 14:52
    Top of the top conversation - a lot of things I have read about already, but he has some very interesting point as well.
  • PB
    Pieter B.
    14 August 2020 @ 08:54
    Fascinating conversation! Thanks a lot!