Ed, a lot of respect for you and Real Vision, but please take politics out of this forum. When someone starts an argument laying down what the "truth" is all about... shouldn't one immediately ask if that statement isn't in itself a form of indoctrination and therefore divisive? That is indeed the problem.... everyone seems to think of himself/herself to be the all-knowing, the all-wise, the all-moral encompass and therefore the legitimate owner of the "truth"...

Great interview! Thanks Ed!

I still dun know why discussion on politics are so unbearable for some ppl. I always to hear what the other side are talking and point of view. Then we understand each other better. Good job RV, discussion bring understanding, does not mean u need to agree, but to exchange view. Same as investment...

Probably better if Real Vision stays away from soapbox politics? Teach us about business, Your business interviews are super Thats why we are here!

Ed Harrison here: As the interviewer, I liked this interview for one simple reason: Fiorina had a very cogent understanding of the problems with Big Tech and potential solutions. I personally believe Big Tech regulation will be a defining issue of the next several years. So, anyone asking why this interview matters, should stop right there because Big Tech is massive as a percentage of overall US and global market cap. And what happens to them matters for investors. As to her solution, what is most important is that she delineates the problem into two realms: bigness and 'free speech'. In her view, the two are related but different, meaning concentrating on Big Tech's bigness won't necessarily give you a solution to the free speech side of things. So the issues around Section 230 loom as large as antitrust regulation in that framing. Very good discussion in my view. PS. - You can't avoid the political side of the discussion (unfortunately). But the crux of the discussion is big tech

Kudos. Personally, I like that RV would allow this politicly oriented interview. But there is so much to be said. I'm probably 10 minutes in so I hope there is more balance to the issue mentioned here. Some of what I'd like to see addressed; Was the claim of Trump/Russia Collusion story that was screamed from every Leftist media outlet, and every Democratic politician...for 3+ years...true of false? Was the claim of a Trump Ukraine situation true or false? There were calls to impeach him even before he was sworn in. There was illegal surveillance of his campaign. The Steele Dossier was fake. Did anyone here see the Kavanaugh hearings? My understanding is there are lists of documented lies that were used against him. In regard to election irregularities it seems an amazing number of people have come forward to give affidavits suggesting, at the very least, questionable behavior. How can these and other claims, and their associated hyperbolic vitriol simply go away overnight? Though I completely condemn the breaking into the capitol, there were thousands upon thousands of people at that DC protest that there because of the questions I mention above, along with many other issues not mentioned here. I would also submit the DC protesters and so many others, many Democrats included, even if they don't know the exact figures, have an idea of what our deficit is, and what the debt figure is, and that unfunded entitlement promises are 6 - 8 times what the amount of the debt. How did these untenable promises get started and why when, over decades, anyone that said this spending, and promises of ever more, wasn't going to work, was shouted down by at least half of politicians, and the vast majority in the media. And some wonder why people are upset when the latest plan for a fix is unimaginable money printing? This and so many other situations, to my mind, demand truths and bona fide investigations to get to the truth. I tend to believe the charges and much more were simply conjured by the same people that want to continue with the blind eye towards the real problem. But I also want to know if I'm wrong. Is everything hunky-dory and I'm wrongly convinced that are really bad? How the hell did we get to this point financially and economically? In regard to the diversity, the supposition is that there are mountains of talent just sitting around not being utilized because of discrimination. If there is such a mountain of talent I would suggest to them to get out there and start a company. Personally, I'm willing to do business with anyone that can do a good job. But you've got to show me the product or service. I willing to bet there are millions who would jump at the chance to do business with a minority owned, or women owned business, not because of any protected class status, but because everyone, everywhere is looking for performance. There is so much more that could be said in this regard that is politically and socially too sensitive for this website. I'm all for diversity as long as performance isn't hindered. Let the cream rise to the top. If I go the doctor, or hire an architect, or anyone anywhere else, I want to know they can do the job. Color and sex (sorry, "gender") matter not to me. I doubt Ed Harris and Raoul Pal hire people they think cannot do the job. But as Thomas Sowell emphasizes one has got to get and have the skills to fit in or start something for themselves. So there's that, for a quickly worded train of thought.

Who tf is this lady???

I love Real Vision. That's why I hope you will keep the politics off the platform so it doesn't get ruined like everything else these days.

I tried to watch this one, but couldn't handle the political, self serving narrative. Nothing against Ed or his abilities, simply couldn't continue to listen to Carly.

Oh look, the shortest serving VP nominee in history lol

Fiorina is nothing more than a true modern day politician. Good interview Ed.

I can see the anti-Orange Man stance of the interviewee got some die-hard Trumpers aggravated on here. Speaking as a Brit, I am no fan of Biden or Harris and think the Orange One did a great job of putting the CCP threat squarely on the table; indeed, I worry that Biden will sweep this under it. However, I couldn't stand the narcissistic lies and his blatant talking up of the S&P500 (anybody else here remember his frequent mentions of the 'tremendously beautiful' Chinese trade deal); not to mention his hypocrisy in dissing the Fed, QE and the "Big Fat Ugly Bubble" on the election trail in 2015 and 16, then doing an about face and calling for rate cuts, QE and NIRP while he was in power. Seriously, what a two-faced hypocrite. Anybody who gets triggered by my comments on Trump above and cannot look upon the situation dispassionately must have lost any semblance of objectivity they might have once had...

I tend to lean right politically and although there were things said that I fundamentally disagree with, I appreciate Real Vision having the respect and courage to post a video that so powerfully articulates what’s on the hearts and minds of roughly half the country.

I jumped around and listened to 6 of the 17 sections. Did this woman not fall on her face in any of the 11 remaining? It's like a robot answering questions who is programmed to give the most inane, unrealistic answer possible. Please direct me to one section that is reasonable that I might have missed. I thought that a broken clock was right once a day but now I'm starting to doubt even that axiom ...

Fiorina is a joke. She literally drove HP into the ground as its CEO and was forced to resign (given a very nice golden parachute on the way out btw). I guess because she is a woman it is all good. I can't even believe she ran on the republican ticket, she sounds like a socialist with non stop talk about equality. I have always been for electing and employing those upon merit, she seems to want to make the world flat.

1. While not condoning the method of the protesters at the US Capital, what is wrong with requesting an audit of a vote? An investigation as serious as the one into the Trump teams relationship with Russians might have given Trump/Republican voters some confidence in the Biden presidency. Dismissing concerns is only going to lead to more division and distrust and is antithetical to the concept of accountability Fiorina claims to want. 2. The implication that there are unequal outcomes, some along racial or sex lines, and these are a result of some ill-defined "injustice" and not a result of a great propensity to commit crime, differential talent or levels of effort put in during the education, etc needs to be proven through controlled empirical study. Most inequalities are usually found to have causes people don’t want to talk about. This interview is the sort of gibberish you’d expect from the NYT or the Guardian.

Carly is very articulate and nice to listen too but her message is confusing and circular. The interview starts with accountability and how the people that object to the election results must be punished; Ted Cruz and the republicans. At the end of the interview she talks about people need to speak up when they see issues that are wrong in business or politics. Speaking out about the election results and how people changed the election rules leading up to November seems to be a subject we can not speak up about; maybe this is the basis for the riot in Washington.

Very brave of her to be so political for a Real Vision video. With that said I appreciate what it takes to become who she is - showing up to the strip club to move the rankings.

Comments from a "Down Under' resident living in NZ. It's not difficult to see why America is slowly losing its social, economic and political grip globally. Partisan politics aside, this lady threw up so many very poignant home truths about the problems currently besetting the US. And judging from the comments and split Ratings so far for this interview, the 6th January doesn't seemed to have bothered half the American population one iota. Sorry USA but in case you haven't noticed, the rest of the world is not exactly enamored with your current methods of problem solving. Far from it. And as global citizens, that's potentially dangerous for all of us.

Fiorina says diversity increases everything from success to revenue and all we must do is care. Problem identified. Those in power are comfortable enough to not care. So in order to create this incentive the system must degrade more before people begin to care. Then the work of unity, diversity and all the good values we should hold dear, but simply don’t, can be brought up. In my opinion this is why systems fail. Once entropy is far enough removed that you are unaffected by it, why put any more energy into the system? It’s simple behavioral physics. Entropy must be reintroduced and sadly riots and institutions being degraded do this. Unfortunately this will be devastating to everything we hold dear. It’s ironic and counterintuitive that those who would happily and ignorantly tear us down as a nation are part of the solution. Putin, Xi, Trump, Cruz, Graham, McConnell, Ted Kennedy and others are the demo side of this nations remodel. The only real problem we have is how long will we have to live in a half remodeled state of affairs? And if you ask my wife regarding our current homes remodel, the answer is “...way to damn painfully long!”

How did she scam HP out of $42M in severance pay? It would be cool if Ed unpacked the strategy so we can all get a payout like it one day.

Even though I mostly agree with Mrs Fiorina I don’t come here for political content and RV hasn’t earned much trust as an unbiased high quality broker of political content, so I’m not interested. I would be interested if RV made an investment to earn my trust and found a way to apply the same first-principles data driven tribeless approach to politics as it does to trading. Mrs Fiorina mostly spoke like a career politician, she gave platitudes and anecdotes and not so much data and strong rhetorical arguments. Nothing like the latter exists and I want it so bad. Bring the latter and I’ll double my sub price.

Funny how it's often the same people whining about their freedom of speech being allegedly suppressed who can't tolerate any speech not 100% consistent with their view, even when no one forces them to listen to it. Plus if you're not coming to RV to listen to political figures, fine, don't. There are other subscribers who are interested. RV doesn't belong to you exclusively. In short, if you have something constructive to contribute, please do. Otherwise please take your negativity elsewhere.

Ed's interviewing skills really shine in pieces like this. Appreciating his work more and more. THank you.

I couldn’t watch this entire video. I had to double check that I was on RV and not CNN. I think Carly’s goal was to piss off half the subscribers. I appreciate now more than ever that Ed, Ash, Raoul and the crew stay politically neutral.

I think the thumbs up and down probably reflect the real election result. LOL

I LOVE LOVE Real Vision and it's a constant part of my life, but this is not what I come here for. From reading the comments, it doesn't seem I'm the only one...

I'm sorry, but I couldn't get past 5 minutes. After what Fiorina did to HP, listening to her is like nails on a chalkboard. Bill Hewlett and David Packard are screaming in horror from the great beyond.

The election was not stolen

I think I stumbled onto the wrong website. I meant to listen to Real Vision, not Twitter or CNN. That's where I'd go if I wanted a bunch of political hogwash. How the heck is listening to Carly Fiorina's political opinions supposed to help me as an investor? Less of this, please.

LOOOOLLL I heard the first 5 minutes of this and I knew there were gonna be some massive dislikes on this video. Thank you, Ed Harrison and Carly Fiorina for doing this. It IS NECESSARY and the dislikes go to show the state of the Union even on a platform that I considered to be relatively sophisticated compared to a free one like twitter. Power through the hate knowing that you will keep democracy alive in America. This should be a wake-up call that there is something deeply wrong with our system and that we need new policy that address the root of the cause and not just treat the symptomns. Treating the symptoms only is how we had economic malaise from 08-2020 and the continued political upheaval in the face of historic income inequality. I am gravely concerned that Biden will not be radical and righteous enough to ensure a more sophisticated Trump will not come along in 2024. If he truly meant nothing will radically change then everything will radically change for the worst post his presidency.

Fantastic, fascinating video with someone that was not really on my radar. Insightful questions, great dialogue. More women interviewed, please!

Should the title of this interview be: Big Tech Has Unprecedented POLITICAL Power?

CF's anti-Trump bias is consistent with her endorsement of Biden, being Co-chair of Romney for President & Victory Chair for John McCain. Hopefully, Ed will interview a more libertarian savvy techie to shed more insights on potential solutions for our problems with BIg Tech. We need to address the threats to our democracy that impair having an informed (not censored) electorate.

I did not sign up and pay for political opinion pieces. Very disappointed in RV with this.

Now U became political TV. When U going to block views that are different fro your opinion ?

What a bunch of BS. I am shocked that RV would allow a public figure such as CF to have such a sensitive and liberal political platform. Will you now give an equivalent platform to a conservative alternative view? This is unbelievable. Maybe if you had a more fair and objective interviewer the result would have been better. I was expecting a discussion of big tech and its unprecedented economic (and political) power. This was anything but. Very disappointing. If I wanted to watch a political show, I would tune into MSNBC. This is against RV's mission.

Can RV locate and interview people that are working on a more secure, transparent , bona fide , voting system?? blockchain technology or any technology that would increase the peoples trust in our voting system. I am sure that half the people RV interviews in the crypto space could find a solution. We can find cures for certain cancers but the voting system remains antiquated?? Its 2021! i dont get it.

Clearly ratings reflect divide in the nation. Very insightful. USA has a long road ahead if we continue to work against each other as we appear to be divided on our principals (vs just our policies).

I enjoyed this interview even though it was very political. Carly Fiorina is by every stretch of the imagination an accomplished career women, especially as the CEO of HP. However, her legacy as a candidate for President and as Ted Cruz’s VP candidate in the 2016 election cycle will always be what's she publicly recognized for many people. She's a political figure, and that's fine. But this is a growing departure from RV’s focus on apolitical informative content for investors and people trying to get the inside perspective. If RV plans to get into the Political interview business I will support that and would encourage the creation of a “RV Politics” Channel. That is something I would support and gladly pay for as a consumer of RV content. However, calling this interview a discussion on big tech may be a tad bit disingenuous as it focused mainly on Jan 6th, Trump the Businessman, Diversity in the Work Place, COVID-19, Small Business struggles, and then big tech. If your topic is meant to match the discussion, it should be leading from the front and not the rear.

Great interview, I really think Carly has some excellent points. One issue I think is crucial and ignored in US politics is how to get the long-term unemployed back into the workforce. Many have been homeless for quite some time. My big idea is to bring back the CCC and organize it like a military branch. Citizens can sign up and take orders from there. They get uniforms, they’re relocated to a barracks, they eat at a mess hall, and the government has to find a productive use for them. Right-to-work laws go way back and we should consider them, because there is a lot of useful work we need done and there is no other way to give some people a chance to rejoin the workforce and ultimately move to private sector employment. Anyway, thanks for reading and good luck!

The 'consent of the governed' seems to be a big problem for Carly. Makes me wonder how she would cope with Jefferson's 'blood of patriots'. Would she be fine with ordering the tanks to attack the 'bonus army'?! I kept going thru the interview hoping to hear her say something of value.

Might be that I am too critical now, but this is not on my list of favourite interviews on RV. In general, I found Carly Fiorina to be speaking in such a general and grand terms that it really gave me little. "We must all come to the table and sit down and figure this out." say what now? Was it that type of bold mission statements that landed you the CEO job at HP? There is a depth to Ed's reasoning that I can't say that I found in what she said, but in fairness to her, Ed is very good at this.

Carly's specific take on "accountability" is disturbing. For a democracy to survive and thrive, there must of course be the rule of law, and importantly, trust and respect for the rule of law. Clearly, those that engaged in sedition, insurrection, and riot must be held accountable. However, it is chilling to hear Carly likewise demand "accountability" for those in Congress who requested a constitutional procedure (like in 1876) to determine that the votes in particular states were indeed lawfully processed. According to a Gallup poll taken after the election, 89% of Republicans expressed concern about about the election process (accentuated certainly by claims that the election was "stolen"). How can confidence in the elections process and our democracy be restored? Certainly, not by endlessly repeating that this perception is "baseless" or by seeking "accountability" for those who sought a procedure that would make the truth visible, a goal that Carly advocated in her interview..

If being too big is dangerous, than this also applys to governments. Governments are the greatest danger to society.

Think back to use of virus as rationale for vote manipulation (immoral, if not illegal). Think back to a march on the Capital to protest (mob? I understand up to half of Americans thought the mail voting hastily implemented were at least immoral or illegal.... prior to SCOTUS). Think back to a policing breakdown (why were protesters allowed on the site, police do follow orders) and a significant radical component allowed loose within the site. Now, think of the media narrative and political response..... how will this not further divide the halves? and make the situation worse?

Join the Democrats...wrong Party.

Always the hate...

She sounds like a Democrat, is she in the wrong party? You can sense the brainwashing through years in the corporate world. Instead of treating humans as individuals, it's the typical divisive race/gender obsession that seems to permeate almost all of her thinking.

she sounds like a robot

More smoke and mirrors. There are larger issues this country needs to be focusing on.

I love the way that Ed interviews people...intelligent questions, excellent listening, and bio-based pacing. This is the first time I could tolerate hearing Carly's voice. Everytime I've heard her in the past I feel she's very defensive and in her head. In this interview I found her calmer and had very thoughtful and valuable responses. Thank you, both of you.

It is possible that a Senator Cruz for President supporter in 2016 can change her positions in four years to proposing Democratic Party platform positions? Is this a mea culpa? Normally I enjoy learning from anyone who I feel is sincere, regardless of political position. This just does not seem sincere, sorry. DLS

To support the lessor evil in 2016 was also a poor decision. Senator Cruz is cut from the same cloth, just not as effective. DLS

as for big tech i don't have facebook but i recall hearing a few years back people talking about the people posting on facebook about how there boycotting facebook there's your problem add that to big tech being able to kill competitors current news story parler yet another problem the political end of things in the usa my 2 cents are the country is divided in 3 major groups the R's D's and the i don't do politics groups Lindsey Graham Dianne Feinstein praise each other at end of Amy Coney Barrett hearing and the dems are outraged at Dianne Feinstein over what was just a nice exchange of thanks so i don't see coming together being an option on either side and I'm sure there's examples the other way around of the something but again there's your problem can't work together can't compromise i think the biggest thing to remember is humans are resistant to change so i predict positive change is coming it's just going to be slow for me i try to take a step back listen and ask question also for some reason today it seems asking questions is frowned upon to put it mildly also reflection looking back and really thinking about how things were then and how they are now i feel a lot of positive change has happened it's just so slow we don't notice it it's not like pushing a button

Thanks Ed...this was different...always looking for another point of view...not sure I got a lot from Carly Fiorina this time as it seems she is preaching the obvious...but always good to listen and see if there is a nugget to grasp...

thanks for the interview. Please keep doing this to bring people with diverse view points!

when i hear americans whine about the 'silencing of conservatives voices', stop the bs, its not. its the silencing of people who are fundamentally, blatantly and obviously dishonest. a genuine conservative is not a narcassistic conman who shags hookers, insults anyone and everyone, lies constantly. a genuine conservative does not take advantage of simple minded religious folk or their less educated or less privileged fellow countrymen. so lets not talk about conservative voices, leave the changing of established word meanings to the college left, please. if you think these people should be allowed to lie on social media to enrich and empower themselves, by establishing and then provoking a cult-like audience, thats fine, i hope your kids get to join one someday. but again please dont call them 'conservatives'!

Extremely biased

As an interview this is all right, but I'm not sure what the theme is for having it on realvision - Most interviews / videos help in either understanding the macro environment and trends or talk about specific investment related opportunities. This one seemed like a very generic interview

This is a joke, right?

Interesting interview, enjoyed it but can understand why Trump supporters won’t. Good questions Ed.