“Extend and Pretend”: Moral Hazard in the Debt Markets

The Interview ·
Featuring Daniel Zwirn

Published on: June 23rd, 2020 • Duration: 43 minutes

Dan Zwirn, founder and CIO of Arena investors, returns to Real Vision to discuss credit investing in perilous and perplexing markets. He and Real Vision’s managing editor, Ed Harrison, discuss the rise of so-called "cov-lite" loans and the state of collateralized loan obligations (CLOs). Zwirn delves into the details surrounding the deterioration of credit quality across the fixed-income landscape, and he explores the various way shrewd credit investors can protect themselves, such as put-optionality and convertible bond arbitrage. Zwirn and Harrison also comment on the Federal Reserve’s role in propping up credit markets and what opportunities there are in permanently impaired sectors such as retail, airlines, and cruise lines. Filmed on June 18, 2020.