Jamie Metzl and Dee Smith — When Systems Collapse

Published on
June 5th, 2020
Duration
62 minutes


Jamie Metzl and Dee Smith — When Systems Collapse

The Interview ·
Featuring Dee Smith and Jamie Metzl

Published on: June 5th, 2020 • Duration: 62 minutes

What happens when longstanding systems begin to fall apart? Jamie Metzl, author of "Hacking Darwin," and founder and chair of One Shared World, joins Dee Smith, CEO of Strategic Insight Group, to help viewers understand systemic breakdowns through the lens of the COVID-19 pandemic. Metzl breaks down the state of global geopolitics, illustrates what systems collapse looks like, and explains why he thinks the world is nearing the brink. He also sheds light on the potential impact of genetic engineering on financial markets that he detailed in "Hacking Darwin." Finally, he talks about his new venture, One Shared World, which aims to "get to an interdependent future" as soon as possible, and to build a better world before that is impossible. Filmed on June 3, 2020.

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  • GT
    Guillaume T.
    9 July 2020 @ 23:24
    Once again, reading those comments is the cherry on the cake to some strong views we may or not agree with.
  • SB
    Sean B.
    3 July 2020 @ 11:29
    Wow, very thought provoking.
  • lm
    luke m.
    15 June 2020 @ 23:55
    VERY Disappointed real vision, giving this Jamie bloke a platform to promote his cancerous ideology for this new world order is disgusting 🤢
  • DL
    Darryn L.
    12 June 2020 @ 06:11
    People don't even know they're eating GMOs, so just get over it????? No way I'm with Taleb !
    • DL
      Darryn L.
      12 June 2020 @ 06:12
      To clarify, I am with Taleb on this.
  • VS
    Vishal S.
    7 June 2020 @ 03:32
    This was a difficult interview to watch, due to the mendacity displayed. It falls well below the standard of Real Vision. In my experience so far, Real Vision puts on great guests that speak candidly about topics they are authorities on. Interviews like this one are ubiquitous on the internet, they plaque our media and news outlets. I come to Real Vision to get away from all that....not listen to the same old drudgery. This was just plain hard to watch due to the shallowness of Mr Metzl's viewpoints. He just blabbered on and on with no clear direction or concrete examples to back up what he was saying. Worse, the interviewer does not probe him to do this and just let Metzl take over and run with empty claims. Please Real Vision....with interviews like this, I will stop paying my subscription and go elsewhere. Stick to the tried and tested method that has brought your channel the success it deserves today. That method was to bring on guests who are authorities on their subjects, speak candidly and back up their views, and have direction of thought. That is worth paying for!
    • Hv
      Hannah v.
      7 June 2020 @ 03:48
      How about the Coconut Girls frolicking in the waves? That’d be worth my $800CAD subscription fee. #inclusion
    • TB
      Tobin B.
      7 June 2020 @ 23:18
      I agree Vishal. I will say though that I don't have to agree with presenters viewpoints to watch (some) of the interview, and their words and actions show me what vile world participants say and do.
    • XF
      Xavier F.
      12 June 2020 @ 01:56
      well put Vishal
  • bh
    brett h.
    10 June 2020 @ 19:08
    hubris
  • JL
    James L.
    10 June 2020 @ 10:11
    nice interview, but you can jam your infested international organisations
  • JS
    Johannes S.
    7 June 2020 @ 10:31
    Guys, you just have to read The Fourth Turning to understand how spot on Metzl is. The only way out of the 4th turning’s crisis period we are in are stronger institutions and more collaboration. Even if it seems unlikely at the moment.
    • DS
      David S.
      7 June 2020 @ 17:58
      When you use the fourth turning to construct a narrative, you are already off course. DLS
    • TB
      Tobin B.
      7 June 2020 @ 23:15
      What do you mean David
    • JS
      Johannes S.
      8 June 2020 @ 00:28
      @David, you don't think the Fourth Turning plays a role here? Or you think the generational theory behind it is wrong? Honest question.
    • DS
      David S.
      10 June 2020 @ 07:53
      Sorry to respond so late. I believe the fourth turning is ok for an advertising narrative at most. I do not believe it has enough foundation to be a narrative on stock evaluations. Use it at your own risk. DLS
  • RD
    Reginald D.
    10 June 2020 @ 03:33
    I found this interview fascinating. I can't believe there are as many Thumbs Down on this as there are.
  • RD
    Reginald D.
    10 June 2020 @ 03:33
    I found this interview fascinating. I can't believe there are as many Thumbs Down on this as there are.
  • JB
    Jake B.
    8 June 2020 @ 09:30
    Wow. A lot of people getting worked up here. Yet no one has pointed out the most important part of the interview - The Kama Sutra book of Dee’s shelf
    • RD
      Reginald D.
      10 June 2020 @ 03:33
      I thought I was the only one who noticed that! I swear I was going to comment on that, hahaha.
  • XF
    Xavier F.
    10 June 2020 @ 01:01
    too much political BS
  • PE
    Paul E.
    9 June 2020 @ 21:04
    Things didn't turn out too well for Dr. Frankenstein, his monster, or the community! Genetic Engineering has the potential to go way too far...
  • HC
    Hiu C.
    5 June 2020 @ 21:16
    US coronavirus response is horrible but WHO is in China’s pocket so for sure it is a problem.
    • MM
      Mark M.
      8 June 2020 @ 02:25
      WHO is funded by nations. Nations who fund it have certain power. That the US is de-funding the WHO right now shows just how unstrategic the Trump "administration" is.
    • KF
      Karen F.
      9 June 2020 @ 12:38
      The biggest sponsor of the WHO is the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation..... do I need to say more?
  • BS
    Brian S.
    9 June 2020 @ 05:01
    I’ve never actually been scared for humanity during a Real Vision interview. Through all of the doom and gloom associated with the end of the credit cycle I have never been scared. After watching this, I’m terrified for all of us. These are the type of ideas that I’m certain will end humanity one day
  • DS
    David S.
    6 June 2020 @ 19:23
    yon d. - Thanks for the comment. I posted two long comments. It was such a pain to try to make sense of Mr. Metzl's ideas, I was exhausted. Mr. Orwell addressed these problems, especially the misuse of power, in his science fiction book Nineteen Eighty-Four. He used the words Newspeak and Doublethink. In the English vernacular, we often use the term Doublespeak. My problem is Mr. Metzl does not look at the whole picture – Wuhan lab vs. Wuhan wet market - and suggesting that with enough power One Shared World might solve the problem. There is a lot possible good in One Shared World to educate and apply pressure for independent legislative action. If it is used, however, to gain worldwide independent power at the supra-national level it will probably be a failure. DLS
    • TS
      Tom S.
      6 June 2020 @ 23:28
      David S. – This is off topic but considering current relations with China, I thought it possibly of interest. Back in the late eighties I was guest of a company in Beijing. The conclusion of a visit with the company’s secretary, a ranking member of the CCP, stands out. She broke down in tears as she spoke of the dangers of the freedoms her university aged son was assuming. Initially I thought “duplicitous existentialism” -- choose one door and others close, and goodness knows everyone had ‘always’ thought the current order was correct even though they had similarly espoused the previous system, and the one before that, and … Then I recalled the torture screen in George Orwell’s ‘1984’. The interrogator holds up 4 fingers, and asks how many fingers? Winston answers ‘4’. ‘5’ retorts the interrogator inflicting massive pain. The process continues ‘till Winston responds ‘5’ - even greater pain. The interrogator explains: You gave the answer you thought I wanted. We will continue until you BELIEVE you see 5. Conditioning. My hostess wasn’t duplicitous. Terrors seen during the latter Mao and subsequent Gang of Four rules conditioned many Chinese to a dynamism of real belief. As to the lady’s fears for her university aged son, the ‘Incident at Tiananmen Square’ occurred short months later. ----- Orwell seems to have based his ‘1984’ on an earlier dark work of the same title by H.G.Wells.
    • DS
      David S.
      7 June 2020 @ 19:40
      Tom S. Thanks for the personal insight. W. G. Wells was excellent. There is a volume of his short story published in 1984. Is that your reference? DLS
    • TS
      Tom S.
      9 June 2020 @ 03:44
      Sorry David S., I can't now recall, nor can I find, the reference. Failing memory suggests: It was the actual name of the story, possibly published on poor quality media - a journal or such - and that there were very few copies extant. The concept of Orwell having simply elaborated on the work being zealously promoted by a small group of H. G. Wells loyalists. The notion that Orwell actually saw it kept the flame alive for a time. There is a paper on Well's influence which credits Wells' "When the Sleeper Wakes (or Awakes)" as Orwell's inspiration.
  • WL
    Wayne L.
    9 June 2020 @ 02:04
    Contains some very interesting and useful discussion but I found the very clear globalist political agenda alarming to be honest. That section of the discussion does seem to me to be at odds with the spirit of realvision, ie eschewing politics and illuminating the macro picture.
  • TS
    Tom S.
    6 June 2020 @ 18:17
    First and foremost thankyou to Real Vision for including outlier opinion. I do not subscribe simply to re-enforce my own prejudices. My interest is to broaden, rather than narrow my own understandings. To be honest, my initial reaction was to be appalled, not with the interview, but with the unmitigated rudeness of many of the early comments. It has taken me a day to recover from that shock. I am pleased to see civility largely returned. As to the interview’s content my own limited view is simple: Jamie Metzl borders on being a Pollyanna, an impression re-enforced by his body language throughout. I need not dwell on specific weaknesses. Others have already pointed to many. But I welcome hearing Jamie Metzl’s point of view non- the-less. My plea is that we all try to exhibit a modicum of maturity in our comments.
    • RB
      Robert B.
      7 June 2020 @ 01:18
      Suspect there are a lots on "unwashed masses" like myself in here at the moment, taking advantage of the first month offer from the RV crew. We'll clear out in a few weeks, and I'm sure the comments threads will include less cussing when that happens :).
    • RM
      Robert M.
      8 June 2020 @ 13:55
      My initial REACTION was similar to what people have written. Fortunately, I had pause this presentation overnight. Now, my thoughts come around to how many people have declared "snowflakes" of others who have been unwilling to honestly and intellectually debate many issues. So, I agree with you - especially your last sentence.
  • GW
    Geoff W.
    8 June 2020 @ 07:31
    Loved the part when Dee was saying that there are no One World Government implications and then Metzl immediately contradicts Dee and says that One World is the intent. Comedy gold!
  • BB
    Brian B.
    8 June 2020 @ 04:23
    Completely impossible theory of one world beneficent govt/order. Will not happen anytime soon & pretty much a waste of lots of people’s time. Requires class of technocrats / trust the ‘experts’ experience. People are not down for that. Experts have been wrong WAY too many times. World will need decades if not centuries of trustworthy leadership before ever comes to pass.
  • RK
    Roger K.
    7 June 2020 @ 17:44
    It seems Jamie has got so many dislikes due to discussing the origin of corona virus. There goes the freedom of speech. We are already doomed. " To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize " - Voltaire
    • WG
      Wade G.
      7 June 2020 @ 18:06
      All u have to do is read down and u will see your assumption is not supported.
    • BB
      Brian B.
      8 June 2020 @ 04:13
      I think it’s more the one world government thing.
  • MH
    Michael H.
    5 June 2020 @ 19:43
    It is annoying when guests act as if our system of government supported cronyism, unlimited spending and Fed manipulation of interest rates and the bond market as capitalism. Capitalism isn't broke, it is a natural interaction of each party in an economy acting in their own best interest. When large forces like the government manipulate the natural market signals of price and also do not punish those who have taken excessive risk then natural capitalism cannot work. Most of the rest of the talk is gibberish.
    • MM
      Mark M.
      8 June 2020 @ 02:31
      Unregulated capitalism leads to poisoned water supplies, uncontrolled pollution, and potentially unfetered genomic experimentation. Not to mention pandemics (why bother spending extra money on safety in drug testing and lab experiments) and yes, global warming and potentially making the earth unliveable for humans. Wtf would we want that?
  • WD
    William D.
    8 June 2020 @ 02:23
    one world government is the never ending goal of the elites to promotor their "superior" version of the world
  • RW
    Richard W.
    6 June 2020 @ 11:03
    Jamie Metzel is dangerous. Governments don't solve problems they create them. The more power it has the more dangerous it become. Governments are made of human beings and most of them are hungry for power and when they get it they are not shy in using it to their advantage. Richard D
    • PS
      Paul S.
      7 June 2020 @ 12:43
      Great. Lets all buy guns and hate each other. You have really figured it out.
    • WG
      Wade G.
      7 June 2020 @ 17:51
      Haha... wow. Perhaps there's something just a tad short of what you believe this implies Paul? Non-sequitur much?
    • MM
      Mark M.
      8 June 2020 @ 02:18
      Just 'cause some governments are terrible, doesn't mean the whole concept is.
  • MM
    Mark M.
    8 June 2020 @ 02:11
    Love this. Love the variety from Real Vision. More more more! (and thank you!)
  • mB
    marc B.
    8 June 2020 @ 02:03
    I found the conversation interesting & different. Genetics were interesting and to hear how developed we are makes me more bullish on genetic sequencing companies. Also just want to unite & stop the fighting globally. I don’t want war and I’m exhausted of all the anger in society. I want my daughter to grow up in a more united world. Right now seems like we don’t have any global leadership. Politicians & bankers? People will need to lead in the future!
  • PB
    Paul B.
    8 June 2020 @ 00:45
    Lose the Power Grid to a Solar CME and you will see the Dark Ages again
  • TB
    Tobin B.
    7 June 2020 @ 23:01
    Mentioning that he is a member of the WHO and discussing climate change.. tells me all I need the know. Pass.
    • TB
      Tobin B.
      8 June 2020 @ 00:23
      Wound up watching the last 5 minutes after reading some comments below, and eff you Jamie I'm not signing your petition to give power to bloated inefficient organizations. You globalists are going to have a rough decade after a generation of cynical Xers come to power and begin to unite!
  • DS
    David S.
    5 June 2020 @ 20:56
    This was exceedingly difficult to listen too. Mr. Metzl jumps from pillar to post through association not logic. He wants everyone to agree with him, if not his conclusions will be forced on everyone - 1984. No wonder he writes science fiction. He leaps from coronavirus, bats in hibernation, to a coverup for the virus laboratory without even trying to look at the whole picture. Many of the world’s best virologist disagree with him based on science. This is of no merit for Mr. Metzl, as it does not fit his agenda. Mr. Metzl prefers science fiction coupled with conspiracy theories. Great for novels, but bad truth. He is building spider webs in his mind and acting like they are reality. Who will figure out what is great and what is terrible? Maybe a science fiction writer/attorney should make all these decisions for the world?? The WHO was afraid for their funding and did not blow the whistle on Coronavirus? After the pandemic, the WHO should be dismantled, and a better organization developed. Mr. Metzl could not answer Mr. Smith’s question except WHO needs massive power and funding. One Shared World is a good education tool. One Shared World maybe good political tool. It must not be, however, a power-based organization with enforcement abilities – 1984 again. It would take the problems exiting in the WHO and make them worse. If humans cannot solve our problems and we destroy ourselves, it might be better for the world. The Day the World Stood Still. An alien arrives on earth to save the world by eliminating mankind. There are so few livable worlds in the universe why let one be destroyed by mankind. DLS
    • DT
      David T.
      5 June 2020 @ 22:05
      The virus came from Wuhan Lab and its Wuhan Virus from China. Jamie Metzl is very irresponsible in what he is preaching. People like him are destroying this world.
    • TB
      Tobin B.
      7 June 2020 @ 23:34
      Thanks for sharing David, and not just because I agree with you, but because you are respectful when doing so.
    • TB
      Tobin B.
      7 June 2020 @ 23:35
      *david s
  • AA
    Aymman A.
    5 June 2020 @ 16:20
    Excellent interview. Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with these ideas. Note to RV: Please continue to put talks like this on air and ignore the negative comments in the comments section.
    • RP
      Raoul P. | Founder
      5 June 2020 @ 23:59
      Yes, as ever, we are NOT interested in peoples politics, just getting all sides of any discussion.
    • YF
      Yuriy F.
      6 June 2020 @ 04:04
      100% Agree
    • JO
      Johnny O.
      6 June 2020 @ 10:13
      Excluding ad hominems, it's entirely appropriate to discuss the statements made by a presenter in their RV interview. Political criticism of political statements made by RV presenters should not be off limits and treated like it would be if viewers were criticizing the presenter's appearance, race, religion, mother, shit they did in their youth or shit they said years ago. This Metzl video is entirely political not financial; hence some comments are political. And if a Novogartz or Roubini makes 10 disputable statements in his RV interview, 7 financial and 3 political, polite rebuttal of the latter 3 should not be off limits.
    • LS
      Lemony S.
      6 June 2020 @ 13:50
      Raoul, the man mentioned the formation towards a one world government. I don't want to silence him, why do you suggest that our commenting on that absurdity be silenced? If you don't want "politics" then redact your interviews (which of course you won't and shouldn't do). Your position and this cry out for "not being interested in people's politics" is hypocritical when you interview people talking expressly about politics. I don't have anything against Mr. Metzl but I do have much against his dangerous ideas. The problem is that those like me like freedom and exchange of ideas, his side will boycott me/fire me/lock me up for expressing them.
    • yd
      yon d.
      7 June 2020 @ 23:29
      Odd, I got 15 thumbs down for suggesting that the Comments section be deleted. I say this because of the too many negative comments and not enough people "just getting all sides" as our awesome leader Raoul says. Thank you Raoul! As always, your team rocks!
  • yd
    yon d.
    6 June 2020 @ 02:12
    RV, I think the comment feature should be eliminated. I feel it is increasingly being used as a platform for their own views and beliefs. And of course, theirs are always more just and right. I really enjoy RV members who intelligently reflect on the interview process itself. Was the guest actively challenged? Did the interview come prepared with engaging questions? Did the interview seem like it was a staged question & answer piece....and so forth. Thank you RV for your continued awesomeness!
    • MB
      Michael B.
      6 June 2020 @ 09:56
      The whole idea of RealVision is to share ideas even those contrary to what I currently believe. To shut down the comments is to shut down discussion which is exactly what the radical left want. I am middle of the road just in case you might ask and also not American so I am not embroiled in the currently crazy US politics
    • LS
      Lemony S.
      6 June 2020 @ 13:41
      You gotta love a guy who comes to look at the comments after watching the video, no one forcing him to scroll, and then suggests they should be banned. This proves our point about the Metzl crowd, they care nothing for liberty and ultimately want control over everything. In the modern day, it's actually the inversion, which supports OUR position --- in the comments section you learn far more. From both good, and bad, interviews. yon d. you are part of the problem, open your mind, and throw up that blue pill.
    • TB
      Tobin B.
      7 June 2020 @ 23:23
      I think to the contrary the comment section should be improved, it would be nice to know if there was continue discussion on comments we were involved in, thanks Raoul.
  • TS
    Timothy S.
    7 June 2020 @ 12:57
    The anger surfacing in the comment section and spilling into the streets is a conundrum. The following article attempts to pin point one source of this anger. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/06/authors-antifa-rioters-are-the-tech-economys-college-discards/
    • TB
      Tobin B.
      7 June 2020 @ 23:14
      Interesting article, it does give insight to the unrest. Too bad that violence is all that seems to garner attention, and is exploited by major players as mentioned in this interview. So far the best solution I have come up with is everyone taking responsibility for their own education as early as possible.
  • bb
    berengere b.
    6 June 2020 @ 02:06
    What is this? We need people who ask hard questions, bring up obvious doubts and challenges to the narrative of the person being interviewed. I want their story inverted and brought back on them, so we can hear how thorough their own thought process is. I.e. you like gold?...ok so why wont gold work. You like centralized intelligent governance...ok... so what will prevent bias, personal agendas, greed and everything else weve seen throughout history from twisting this. You know what i mean. Please start challenging your interviewees more, ask them questions that are tough to answer, not simply agreeing. Devils advocate because there are many possible outcomes. Real vision is amazing but id love to see this element of it improve
    • CS
      Charles S.
      7 June 2020 @ 21:11
      I’d conjecture that RV editors perhaps choose ‘good cop’ interviewers on the premiss that they produce more useful interrogations, potentially even more so if the interviewer is a fellow traveller, which may engender much more candor than a ‘bad cop’ interviewer could ever hope to obtain. The alternative is no interview at all — if RV had a rep for ‘bad cop’ interviewers, the Metzls of the world would never show here. And since they expect the interviewer will be a good cop, they see the interview as an opportunity to persuade a generally skeptical audience. RV viewers benefit by getting a new, or deeper, level of understanding than otherwise.
    • CS
      Charles S.
      7 June 2020 @ 21:21
      to be clear, this does not imply that a 'good cop' interviewer can't ask questions more probing that those posed by the interviewer in this segment.
  • BD
    Brent D.
    7 June 2020 @ 20:48
    202 down to 130 up. Thumbs sum it up nicely!
  • EV
    Erik V.
    7 June 2020 @ 20:22
    What a pair of wack jobs. Low quality people and content
  • TE
    Tito E.
    5 June 2020 @ 07:58
    "Wouldn't it be great if we had a global surveillance system that..." No.
    • DS
      David S.
      7 June 2020 @ 19:53
      yon d. - Thanks for your comment. Many realized this is a can of worms. Nuff said. DLS
  • DM
    David M.
    6 June 2020 @ 22:32
    Great interview! Enjoyed learning about Metzl's viewpoint. And I agree, seeing interdependence among countries and responding to shared threats is needed. To succeed in the longterm, capitalism should include investing in "the world commons" (people, environmental health, sharing of public health knowledge and so on).
    • DS
      David S.
      7 June 2020 @ 18:09
      I agree in recognizing our interdependence and working toward better solutions. It is the self-interested power base that I object to. If you listen well, the proposal is for a supranational power base to force change as Mr. Metzl sees fit. DLS
  • CS
    Charles S.
    5 June 2020 @ 22:15
    "The United States invested heavily in resurrecting our worst adversaries real  quikly after either dropping nuclear bombs on them or engaging in total war.  The game plan was always to build the world that we want to live in." => As if the Marshall Plan and the parallel US soft-power initiatives were not in the service of the US gov fighting the Cold War. I also doubt that many in the Monroe-doctrined countries would see US actions there as benevolent, even at face value. I'd think a Darwin scholar and a geopolitical analyst would both express a more acute awareness of how power works -- are the conversants in the service of an undisclosed power ?
    • WG
      Wade G.
      7 June 2020 @ 17:47
      You're absolutely right... he can raise a sociopath's alternative which u might call a pretty low bar; he could legitimately discuss the joint advantages of the admittedly varied and flawed path taken. But to characterize this path as some altruistic choice is either profoundly delusional, or worse, the asinine bs you get from lying statists. The US runs an empire; Germany and Japan have been obedient vassals. His characterization of this history was absurd.
  • SD
    Scott D.
    7 June 2020 @ 14:08
    not too sure what the point of this video was in terms of real vision content. could happily not have watched this one im afraid.
  • LS
    Lemony S.
    5 June 2020 @ 22:56
    Thanks to RV and to Dee, for demonstrating how dangerous the mindset of "experts" are, especially those who fit it to a T here --- a nice combination of marxist, globalist, and scientific materialist. It's funny when these guys talk about civics from their Manhattan million dollar apartments, while a riot is going on outside. Or what the country's identity was through the second World War, and how it changed dramatically after (it lost it), once rebellion and affluence came rushing in with a takeover of the godless university system. The richest part is this man talking about "values", or "best values" as if he even can consider the basis for any of these! He is an example of an intelligent man who is spiritually diseased (the common link of non-religious, religious ideologues) that has no idea how he and his family got here, and the underpinnings of that civilization, and why it prospered. When you hear people like this talk, be very aware that they have no clue how reckless and irresponsible their ideas truly are. They will sacrifice everything for Babel.
    • PS
      Paul S.
      7 June 2020 @ 12:47
      It is extraordinary how threatening the idea of global unity can be to the small minded.
  • RC
    Rob C.
    5 June 2020 @ 15:23
    This is not useful.
    • JS
      Johannes S.
      7 June 2020 @ 10:44
      Definitely more useful than your comment ;)
  • WA
    Wissam A.
    7 June 2020 @ 09:21
    I highly encourage RV members to read Jamie's book "Hacking Darwin". There are some important hard ethical questions that need to be answered going forward with genetic engineering.
  • KV
    Kevin V.
    7 June 2020 @ 03:44
    Is this how world organizations thought process is these days!! It’s an easy WHO decision!!! Go against China and save millions of lives & trillions of economic GDP or ..... yuan bonus from CCP? People who think like this do not deserve to run anything!! They deserve war tribunal and erased from society. Reagan is out of context. Big government doesn’t mean better government. I trusted government until ~2007, but false causes for wars, bailouts, fed printing for the connected and complete Government incompetence (This SARS pandemic is symptom of the Systemic disease) is the reason I have absolutely no trust. In hindsight, USA government went amiss ~2001. Best to START OVER if we still have the SAME PEOPLE in charge of this new organization, bureaucracy or government.
  • Hv
    Hannah v.
    7 June 2020 @ 03:26
    Baizuo comes to mind. Nuff said.
  • Hv
    Hannah v.
    7 June 2020 @ 03:07
    “Global safe spaces”. That was a kumbaya moment!
  • Hv
    Hannah v.
    7 June 2020 @ 01:32
    I’m gonna take a guess; was in youth parliament. Naïvely enthusiastic comes to mind.
  • JB
    Justin B.
    6 June 2020 @ 22:48
    An effete Austrian who trumpets a policy of eugenics, thinly-veiled gun control, and a dominant one world order. Who does that sound like? Why is this rot on Real Vision?
  • DG
    Dave G.
    6 June 2020 @ 17:59
    I'm not sure why the negativity about this interview. I thought it was very interesting.
  • GB
    Gordon B.
    6 June 2020 @ 11:07
    A cursory review of the history of the 1960s would counter the guests suggestion the downward turn of US society started in the 1980s.
    • LS
      Lemony S.
      6 June 2020 @ 13:37
      That was my point in the comment below, where I said "he doesn't know the history". I think financialization and neoliberalism started to come harder at us and the world, but once you lose the US as a european christian nation, it loses its identity and becomes a pawn of modern movements, technology, and consumerism (banking). In most public settings currently, and definitely in US corporate settings, saying what I just did (the truth) would cost me everything --- which shows one final thing --- "progress" does not exist. We have regressed as the free exchange of ideas, scientific method (see coronavirus and recent Lancet study) and honest "dialogue" all take a back seat to emotion, utopian (dystopian) dreams and ultimately authoritarianism. The silly situation of Drew Brees recently is an example par excellence.
    • TS
      Timothy S.
      6 June 2020 @ 14:14
      In a podcast discussion, Peter Thiel and Eric Weinstein suggest the U.S., in particular, began stagnating in the early 1970's and, as a byproduct, our institutions became increasingly pathological, corrupt and unstable. Peter Thiel on "The Portal", Episode #001: "An Era of Stagnation & Universal Institutional Failure." https://youtu.be/bq1NmQ39Rq4 This is a breathtakingly informative discussion by two smart, thoughtful individuals. The fact that they are on opposites sides politically makes it particularly interesting.
  • DT
    David T.
    5 June 2020 @ 21:34
    So, if black parents engineer white babies, would that solve the racism?
    • TS
      Timothy S.
      6 June 2020 @ 13:59
      https://www.pscp.tv/w/1MYGNklYaYZJw?t=7s
  • DD
    Daniel D.
    6 June 2020 @ 00:06
    What a dolt. As if it's hypocritical for a government official to advocate shrinking government. That's like saying a monarch can't decide to democratize a nation because he is using his own monarchic power to effect that change. And you want to talk about transfer payments from wealthy blue states to the disparity red states? Sure, let's have that talk. Let's talk about how we invested capital into Middle America and then proceeded to hollow it out in favor of sending USD and UST overseas. And to whose benefit? Of course the unholy alliance of the income-stabilized welfare recipients and the super rich in the developed urban areas where the poor can be crammed in cost-efficiently and made into vote cattle. The transfer is not dollars from blue states to red, it's blue state dollars backed by all of the power that the global dollar imperium can bring to bear crushing the red states. And what else have we done to ruin the nation? Unprecedented immigration over the last half century. Again, bringing in blue voters serving essentially no real purpose. No nation really *needs* immigrants and in the long run it destroys culture and social fabric.
    • LS
      Lemony S.
      6 June 2020 @ 13:43
      God Bless you. Truth seeker and sayer. Great comment, Daniel.
  • MK
    Marc K.
    6 June 2020 @ 06:15
    Makes sense that he’s a science-fiction novelist
  • DS
    David S.
    5 June 2020 @ 07:57
    I am sorry, but I rarely see so much shallow thinking from an intelligent person in the first few minutes of a presentation. The word pander comes to mind. So far, a grab bag of one-liners without background. This is great for a comedian, but way off the mark here. Genghis Khan was politically innovative in war and peace. Pandemics are normal occurrence throughout history – not just human pandemics. The coronavirus happens to be worse than most flus, but not nearly as bad as the Black Death – 50% died. It is not a once in a hundred-year occurrence. It was not 100% stoppable. We are going through many changes rapidly. This does not mean everything is broken. Because I have so much respect for Mr. Smith, I will wade through this presentation tomorrow. I will take a non sequitur pill when I wake up. There is always hope that something important will be said. DLS
    • yd
      yon d.
      6 June 2020 @ 01:44
      One thing that shocks me is that David S, "aka DLS" *only* posted 2 comments for this interview. He usually inserts his opinion more than that! What's wrong DLS, you fell asleep?
  • Dv
    Daniel v.
    5 June 2020 @ 10:00
    We can all stock-up and live in a shelter but the world is not coming to an end. We know that the economy is in bad shape but markets don't seem to care. We can go towards 4k in the SP500 in 2020 despite all the negative news. I think most people here are mostly interested in earning money, so I would like to see more videos on how to profit instead of all the doom and gloom.
    • CS
      Charles S.
      5 June 2020 @ 23:26
      Right, markets don't care -- their purpose is to facilitate buying and selling. Whether that does or does not seem to relate to the economy is a separate matter. Perhaps over a long-term horizon it does. There is no reason to be surprised w/ the directions of this particular market: its form is an expanding triangle, and as such it should routinely make both new highs and new lows, on its own schedule, likely making most speculators losers over the long term.
  • SW
    Scott W.
    5 June 2020 @ 12:37
    Before WWII, republicans opposed FDR. This was bad. Then we had WWII and democrats and republics came together to support FDR or at least oppose him less. This was good. All it took was a world literally on the brink (yes). Now there's COVID and we're on the brink again from a virus that has killed 100s of millions (or could) and we haven't come together to consolidate enough power in the federal government. This is bad. Trump is bad.
    • CS
      Clay S.
      5 June 2020 @ 19:34
      If people can rally around Roosevelt during crisis, then people can rally around Trump during crisis. Sadly, people refuse to act upon their own preaching.
    • DS
      David S.
      5 June 2020 @ 21:07
      Clay S.- Roosevelt had a long-term plan for the nation. President Trump only real plan is to be re-elected. It is a difficult plan for all to rally around. DLS
    • CS
      Charles S.
      5 June 2020 @ 23:14
      Clay S. -- Recall that Hoover was Pres. for 1st 4 yrs of the Great Depression, FDR not inaugurated till Mar '33. Readiness for FDR likely had a lot to do w/ the common perception that 4yrs of Hoover/status-quo had been a fail.
  • SS
    Stephen S.
    5 June 2020 @ 22:26
    I could live with this. I think a lot of the tension we have is this kind of “forced diversity” where people feel like the can’t express and maintain their own identity, culture, and way of life. This is especially true of the middle class of developed nations that has been under so much pressure from Globalization. Something like a Global Order of unique nations would be good.
    • LS
      Lemony S.
      5 June 2020 @ 23:04
      His "plan" in the last 5 minutes made about as much sense as my big blue city (government) CEO putting "Systemic racism" in an email, the very city being under Democrat control for decades and largely run by blacks. As they say, you can't fix stupid. But at this time, just get out of its way, and let it destroy itself.
  • RM
    R M.
    5 June 2020 @ 22:46
    A one hour long discussion of social collapse, genetic engineering and COVID 19 without any discussion of the implications of the genesis of the coronavirus?? For readers interested in a fascinating discussion of this see: https://medium.com/@yurideigin/lab-made-cov2-genealogy-through-the-lens-of-gain-of-function-research-f96dd7413748 No final conclusion is offered, but there is a good deal of interesting analysis presented. Now put the COVID19 aside, because gain of function virus research is ongoing NOW, globally, and no discussion is to be found here on the pro's and cons of this research, or what it might do to initiate the next pandemic. Re: Collapse. A democratic republic, "if you can keep it" requires an informed, civic-aware and engaged public as ultimate oversight. Not arguing here big gov or small gov, left gov or right gov, but hopefully we all want a functional gov that more or less meets it's objectives, what ever we collectively make them to be. Well the boomers, of which I am one, grew up actively engaged in the Vietnam "discussion" and then slowly over time, gave up on civic engagement and oversight as they strived towards a house in the suburb and three cars. We are now in the final stages of the boomers running things, and power will inevitably transition to the next generation, who will be engaged because my generation has left things a frightful mess. They will make a different set of mistakes, but also bring a breath of fresh air. Boomers unite! Retire and give up your power:} This conversation was an inch deep and a mile wide. Worse, it leaves me with no interest in pursuing either the book or any more Dee interviews.
  • AM
    Alexander M.
    5 June 2020 @ 16:14
    I know it is a shocking thing to say but a very few minutes into this conversation and I had to turn it off. I can't recall the last time I have done this as it would be a very long time ago.
    • LS
      Lemony S.
      5 June 2020 @ 22:44
      I fought through to see how far I could get. 3 hours in, I'm just past halfway home. Grr
  • OC
    Otto C.
    5 June 2020 @ 17:29
    Great interview!!! Nevertheless, it's disturbing that someone so smart supports the WHO and other corrupt organizations being lead by corrupt people such Tedros Adhanom. I understand the argument that we need organizations to support global issues but the problem is that it's so easy to place corrupt people in those positions of power. Another issue is that these organizations are so wasteful. I have a friend who works for UN and she getting paid lots of money for doing nothing.
    • OC
      Otto C.
      5 June 2020 @ 17:37
      BTW, my comment "a friend who works for UN and she getting paid lots of money for doing nothing" is not actually my comment but these are her words.
    • LS
      Lemony S.
      5 June 2020 @ 22:42
      His brain can process things. He is not wise.
  • gj
    gail j.
    5 June 2020 @ 17:42
    I try to seek out views that are different from my own because it helps me refine/ alter my own POV. In the case of Mr. Metzl's overview I would offer an opinion based on 40 years of living and traveling in the 3rd world, and having friends and relatives in dicey dangerous countries. Western intellectuals understanding of " shared" often means everyone else joining a sort of more brightly colored Enlightenment culture. There's a hope for a reign of the Philosopher Kings ( w/ me and my group being top king, of course) Rightly or wrongly there are millions - even billions who see it as oppressive, Dee Smith's gentle push back on the value of specialized systems vs. general systems is WELL worth continuing. Let's go for real diversity. As for me, I want to be a tough little mutant who can adapt to all sorts of situations and surprises, even pandemics and systemic collapses.
    • LS
      Lemony S.
      5 June 2020 @ 22:41
      It is the essence of ironic that Novogratz and this guy sit in their Manhattan ivory towers while others "protest" and destroy the cities they live in. Novo even helps to bail these criminals out. Metzl doesn't even know the history of the United States. How could he know how to fix it? By running another triathlon? This is what happens when you go to Brown University and live in echo chambers, replacing God with "futurism."
  • HC
    Hahns C.
    5 June 2020 @ 20:28
    Our country is founded on the principle that, while government is necessary, IT IS THE PROBLEM. Government is not reason, it is not eloquence,— it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant, and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action. The people must be the "master" of government in order to master our destiny!
    • LS
      Lemony S.
      5 June 2020 @ 22:36
      That's what you get from globalists. See my comment above.
  • KB
    Kirk B.
    5 June 2020 @ 21:59
    I gave this a thumbs up because it presented a non-conventional view on an extremely fundamental matter: power, who has it, and how do you control those that that do. The Westphalian system established exclusive power belonging to nation states. The Covid-19 crisis demonstrated a horrific consequence of power being concentrated at the level of nation states: China covered up the outbreak and its severity, and other large national governments, such as the United States (as well as several other large nation states) were unable to respond quickly due to failures of large powerful rigid unaccountable federal bureaucracies (FDA-here's looking at you). In contrast, small homogeneous countries were able to respond quickly and decisively. Likewise, a number of states within the United States responded well. As Lord Acton famously stated "Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely." I therefore do not see the Utopian outcome that is envisioned by Jamie Metzl resulting from blanket shifting of power from nation states and concentrating it in large planet-encompassing authorities, Rather, I see a dystopian outcome resulting from this concentration of power, except for narrowly defined missions with appropriate balances against expansions of power. I concur that the world needs to move on from power strictions of the Westphalian system, of which the Covid-19 explosion is just one problematic manifestation. However, the future needs to involve a greater diffusion (not concentration) of power, at the expense of the sovereignty of nation states. That would involve some power of nation states being ceded to regional and world-wide organizations with power to address specific regional and world-wide threats, such as pandemics (we would not be in the situation that we are in today with Covid-19 if the WHO had such authority). However, it also would involve shifting of power from nation states to smaller governmental sub-divisions, such as states, which are more agile and responsive to its citizens.
  • DT
    David T.
    5 June 2020 @ 21:54
    I think the reason for so many thumbs down is the respondents attitude of downplaying the dangers of genetic experimenting and also his ironic comments about virus escaping Wuhan lab that killed so many. These genetic modifications will end very bad and humankind would deserve it.
  • PB
    Phillip B.
    5 June 2020 @ 18:44
    I'm astounded at the number of down votes and from reading through the comments. There really is little hope of a positive future without people changing how they think. I count many RV subscribers among the corps of people who have given up, among the corps of people who are incapable of thinking about alternatives for the future. Think. Get yourselves over the one-world government meme. (For those too obsessed with the tick up in $SPX this morning, the one-world government meme was addressed in the interview.) What is the alternative to working together? We have to figure it out. Yes, it is shameful that the last 40 years were hijacked. Prosecute those who failed us. Then move on. Get unstuck. The future doesn't exist yet. The future is not predetermined.
    • SW
      Scott W.
      5 June 2020 @ 19:30
      Good God man, have you not lived long enough to have seen that the larger the non-profit entity, the more wasteful it is? Across the board and multiplied when you're talking about government? Your local government may or may not be decent, your state government may be okay at best and your central government is a downright travesty. The larger your country, the greater the effect. Why don't you open your mind? Less government, more markets, more freedom! One global government does not equate to "working together". Markets do. Freedom of association does.
    • PB
      Phillip B.
      5 June 2020 @ 19:51
      This quote is from Neil Howe in a freely available not that Gavekal just sent out: “The idea that we wait for a time of plenty to implement big, bold new ideas is not actually how history works.” – Neil Howe People are going to have to change their ways of thinking and the ways of thinking about the world. The world is a different place now than the fights we had here in America during Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Obama, and now Trump. The one-world government meme was appropriate for the last 40 years. It's retro thinking any longer. We have to figure this stuff out. The future is our future to make. People thought the world was flat. Imagine living in that world? What beliefs do we hold today that in the future will be looked back on as quant, or as totally false? Challenge your thinking. RV produces content to make money. They also produce content that has a pretty consistent them; don't lose your money, don't lose your retirement nest egg, the world is a changing place. This is a moment where we as individuals, and as a people, need to change our thinking or be left behind.
  • BP
    Bryce P.
    5 June 2020 @ 09:26
    Just more globalist garbage. Dangerous & Disgusting!!!!!
    • PB
      Phillip B.
      5 June 2020 @ 18:01
      Good luck living in your bunker. How long do you think you and your family can survive in the family retreat? Two months? Three months? Then what? Is it even possible for you to consider that that the last 40 years, though shamefully hijacked by an agenda different than the original, was just an attempt for world government? We can make the future. We have to. Or else human life will be less pleasant. The future does not mean a boot on a neck forever. Please think outside the box of usual and customary thinking. This life is all so fragile.
  • MB
    Michael B.
    5 June 2020 @ 09:39
    Globalist propoganda. Free speech allows expression of opinion but the radical left will shut down everything that they don't like just like the unjust censorship by big tech and the lying mainstream media
    • MB
      Michael B.
      5 June 2020 @ 09:44
      I love Real Vision interviews normally and have been a member since its inception. In this case though ZeroHedge or theepictimes are much better news sources.
    • JS
      John S.
      5 June 2020 @ 10:44
      A globalist flogging a dead horse
    • PB
      Phillip B.
      5 June 2020 @ 17:45
      How are we going to solve our problems as little, piss ass, individuals and individual countries? It is not going to happen. The path of the last 40 years was shamefully a waste for the most part. It's too bad. But we have to try again. Working together does not mean the outcome is a one-world government. Please think outside the box that you have conditioned yourself to think in.
  • JC
    Jack C.
    5 June 2020 @ 10:09
    Dee Smith resorts to mainstream media type of sensationalism with titles like "World on the Brink", yet offers very little insights on the nuances behind the headline, and paths of possible future outcomes. I'm happy with not having to watch his interviews at all.
    • PB
      Phillip B.
      5 June 2020 @ 17:40
      I don't know how we're ever going to invent the new future with such close-minded opinions such as what you posted. Think. Open your mind. The future is not about the next tick on SPY. What kind of world do you want to live in? What kind of world do you want your children and grand children to have? The ark of Dee Smith's content are filled with nuance. You do not see it.
  • PB
    Phillip B.
    5 June 2020 @ 17:26
    I haven't started watching yet. When I landed on the page, I noticed a 1:2 ratio of thumbs up:thumbs down! Never seen this ratio before on any RV content. Starting now. Can't wait to see what my conclusions are going to be.
  • PB
    Pieter B.
    5 June 2020 @ 17:18
    I surely have a very different view on some of the topics discussed, but I nevertheless learned a few great new concepts! So thanks for this and please neglect the negative comments and keep sharing your ideas!
  • DZ
    Dan Z.
    5 June 2020 @ 16:53
    He suggested that because we did not support the un/who that is why we had this pendemic? I recall reading on the front page of WHO to keep traveling, not wearing maskes, cov does not spread easily, and so forth in February and into March. The WHO most likely contributed to more deaths then there would have. If an organization fails to provide the correct simple information its funding should be removed or at the least transfered to something that can.
  • AM
    Abhinay M.
    5 June 2020 @ 15:22
    Did I just watch someone promote the idea of a one world Government? And that we don't have enough Government in our lives? I understand Real Vision's goal is to show diversity of opinions and subjects, but damn, what a wasted hour.
    • Av
      Ad v.
      5 June 2020 @ 16:36
      OMG someone has an opinion that I don't agree with!
  • MS
    Matthew S.
    5 June 2020 @ 16:16
    "Maybe we need a world government" is he serious? Probably should vet out ppl who want to promote a single fascist entity controlling the planet from having the opportunity to speak on Real Vision It's good to have a diverse set of speakers (i.e. nice to have Krugman so we can understand how he thinks even though he'll never understand Bitcoin) but it might be good to avoid people actively promoting a fascist world agenda
  • FW
    Frank W.
    5 June 2020 @ 16:16
    Another Leftist megalomainiac. No doubt his gray matter will bring seven billion together in his utopia. Cannot wait for the end of the presentation to be 'enlightened'.
  • SB
    Stewart B.
    5 June 2020 @ 15:55
    Dee mentioned that the Reagan movement toward less government has not served us well. I would humbly suggest that what we have today is exactly the opposite.
  • WM
    W M.
    5 June 2020 @ 15:09
    Strongly disagree with many/most of the assumptions and assertions expressed in this video, but appreciate having access to this interview. Can't communicate this with the simple thumbs up/down.
    • TS
      Thomas S.
      5 June 2020 @ 15:28
      Agreed. I enjoy hearing other perspectives but that doesn't make them "right." This guy really misdiagnoses many, many things.
  • AB
    AJ B.
    5 June 2020 @ 14:50
    We don't have capitalism in the US. It died in 1913. If I want to watch socialists have a discussion I could just tune into CNBC
  • KC
    Kirk C.
    5 June 2020 @ 14:03
    "We shoulds "can never happen - WHO proved that corruption is paid for - get rid of all corruption first - then his "We shoulds" can start to be considered - until then he is just dreaming.
  • KC
    Kirk C.
    5 June 2020 @ 14:03
    "We shoulds "can never happen - WHO proved that corruption is paid for - get rid of all corruption first - then his "We shoulds" can start to be considered - until then he is just dreaming.
  • RD
    Ruediger D.
    5 June 2020 @ 11:59
    Why have we not solved all these problems? Mankind is still driven by the stem brain....or....it's the greed, stupid!
  • ME
    Michael E.
    5 June 2020 @ 11:39
    Not smart enough to understand Mr. Dee. Jamie is brilliant.
  • DP
    David P.
    5 June 2020 @ 10:11
    Propagandistic and desperate to show the US as a benevolent hemegon without showing the other side of the coin. It was interesting the first time(s) to understand how such story telling is done and structured to create a narrative and associated zeitgeist. Could we do more interviews like that with more in depth analysis to show the communication tricks used to be convincing/persuading? It would be more educational that way. Would love to more in depth interview on th Silicon Valley influence style as well, they are extremely good.
  • PU
    Peter U.
    5 June 2020 @ 09:23
    sorry Dee, you won't rob me of my time this go around!
  • JO
    JOHANNES O.
    5 June 2020 @ 09:13
    Propaganda.
  • JS
    John S.
    5 June 2020 @ 08:36
    We need more UN, more WHO...are you kidding?
  • LK
    Lauri K.
    5 June 2020 @ 07:47
    Thanks RV again for an insightful interview. I think Dee did a great job on challenging Jamie's ideas, while still being very diplomatic. There were a few key points that were forgotten inside the main topics of genetical engineering and global interdependence. Firstly I think one big problem, especially with GMO crops are the patents. With them it is possible to monopolize our food sources, which is the clear goal of Bayer-Monsanto. We cannot let the situation, where farmers do not own their seeds be the norm in the future. Secondly, the problem with a world government or anything like it is obviously corruption. This was not touched on by Jamie at all. I think that is the biggest threat and needs to have a solution between we even think about centralising our decision bodies further. The one thing I have to fully disagree with Jamie is the implication of a correlation between taxation and income equality. I am originally from Finland and there is one of the highest, if not the highest effective tax rate in the world and it has been around the same level for the last two to three decades. Still, the income inequality has steadily increased through the start of the millenia, so there has to be another explanatory factor. My insticts would say to look towards central banks and monetary policies, which has the greatest effect on income equality. Otherwise I found the interview pretty insightful and Jamie clearly has good intentions with his missions. Hopefully the results will refelct the intentions.
  • MM
    Matthew M.
    5 June 2020 @ 07:27
    Current free market system = too much of a good thing? I would argue the exact opposite, we have not had a free market system for quite a long time.
  • YF
    Yuriy F.
    5 June 2020 @ 07:13
    Please, excuse me for posting multiple posts. This guy is hilarious. Quick summary of what he is saying. We are in 1918. And there are two ways ahead of us: 1. Disconnected and dark one. 2. And a happy one, provided to us by progressive global organisations equiped with total servailance facilities. They all wait us on the other end of the road, that goes all the way through from 1918 to 1945, On my way to sign his interdependence constitution.
  • YF
    Yuriy F.
    5 June 2020 @ 06:59
    RV I really want to thank you for putting this video together. I don't know what you intention was, but I find it extremely important to know, that there are people out there, that would cheerfully push me to a better "1945" like future. My antennas are now tuned for experts like that, so that if an excrement is born by any of them, I know where a fan and safe exit is.
  • YF
    Yuriy F.
    5 June 2020 @ 06:25
    Oh boy, here we go again. 1. Mr. Metzi should really have a quick look at statistics, that compares corona virus with flu. 2. "100% avoidable event" - it is as avoidable as car crash fatalities. You can engineer and build a 100% safe car. But at what cost? It seems a bit exaggerated to me to call any pandemic 100% avoidable. At least without mentioning economic implications. 3. "There was a guarantor that had a vision of what the world would look like". Thank you so much for leading all of us all these year! 4. It seems weird to me to put Syrian crisis in one line, with a modern financial one. 5. "USA invested early on in being not the sole hegemon.... we invested in raising our worst adversaries". Should have wipe them out back then. Is that what he saying? 6. "China is having a parasitic relationship with a system it is benefiting from". I thought I am familiar with rhetoric against China. I even agree with it to some extent. But this one looks like a complete joke. In which way exactly it is parasitic? Is it because China used to offer workers for USA factories at the cost of slaves? 7. "It began with Ronald Reagan". What, what, what? For God sake, He was the last decent president of yours. At least from an external standpoint. 8. "We've lost our way". Exactly! This guy contradicts himself in almost every sentence. You've lost your way because of a bloated governmental apparatus, which forces capital away from your country to Puerto Rico. I bet he is a big fan of AOC. Another "capital redistribution expert". 9. I'm really interested in how exactly people earn a badge like "geopolitical expert"? He sounds like those "economy experts", that struggle their whole live leaving from paycheck to paycheck. 10. Same with "technology" expert. Couch-quarterback. Every view deserves a discussion. Most of his are overly self-contradicting. What is that? Shameless plug of his new book? PC It's not a critic of RV. Videos of last few weeks were awesome.