Tony Greer’s “Introduction to Alternative Finance”

Published on
January 11th, 2020
63 minutes

Tony Greer’s “Introduction to Alternative Finance”

Tony Greer Interviews ·
Featuring David Collum and Zuby

Published on: January 11th, 2020 • Duration: 63 minutes

In this two-part special, Tony Greer, editor of the Morning Navigator, sits down with Dave Collum, professor of chemistry at Cornell University and is best known on Wall Street for his “Year in Review” reports, as well as Zuby, rapper, author entrepreneur and the host of his podcast, Real Talk with Zuby. They discuss everything from monetary policy, big tech, the essence of entrepreneurship, and the future of crypto and gold.



  • WG
    Wade G.
    24 January 2020 @ 14:42
    Couple of great interviews Tony, thanks!
  • NB
    Nicholas B.
    18 January 2020 @ 08:30
    Great interview, thank you. I think Dave's negative case for BTC just crystalised my positive case for BTC.
  • PP
    Peter P.
    17 January 2020 @ 10:24
    Good interview, but you can taste his whining about Apple products. “The stock went up so much that I can’t afford to buy it, so I’ll whine about how much the computers cost despite having no idea of what overall value Macs might provide to users.” Thank got in not a sourpuss like this guy.
  • SS
    Stan S.
    16 January 2020 @ 22:43
    Well done TG! Enjoyed both interviews. I would have liked each to go an for at least an hour. Definitely enjoyed and was surprised by Zuby. I suppose I have fairly low expectations for those in the entertainment industry but he is clearly thoughtful and well read on a number of hot issues.
  • RK
    Ray K.
    16 January 2020 @ 09:15
    ..and here I was hoping Collum would give insight on recent developments in bioeconomy in light of the recent EU's Green Deal. Instead, he's name-dropping his twitter followers... On the other hand, awesome down to earth interview with Zuby!
  • LA
    Linda A.
    15 January 2020 @ 18:15
    lol- totally agree with him on the federal reserve totem pole.
  • AR
    Anthony R.
    13 January 2020 @ 01:48
    Tony - Keep bringing in the voices from off the beaten financial path. Its needed. Thanks for these two discussions. Nice to see a guy like Zuby come onto a forum he's not a 'usual' player on, with all his talents and say 'I don't know'... to this or that. We're all here to learn. He said so (I don't know) publically..... while others snipe in anonymity. Props. Investors are better served to get these perspectives, whether we agree with them or not.
    • TG
      Tony G. | Contributor
      15 January 2020 @ 18:05
      Really useful comment thank You.
  • FP
    Ford P.
    14 January 2020 @ 21:45
    Old boomer ranting
  • IF
    Ian F.
    14 January 2020 @ 18:15
    This dude uses Zerohedge as a source in his annual letter... need I say more?
  • LL
    Lukee L.
    14 January 2020 @ 01:17
    These two were fantastic, nice change from a lot of very dry characters !
  • MF
    Michael F.
    13 January 2020 @ 06:55
    I would have never guessed that a rapper would understand Bitcoin so well.
    • GF
      Gordon F.
      13 January 2020 @ 21:13
      This is a case where a label is highly misleading. This "rapper" said that he studied computer science at Oxford. We are always prone to put people in boxes, but doing so often blinds us. I really enjoyed both of these interviews.
  • JG
    Jory G.
    13 January 2020 @ 21:11
    Ditto JW2 W.'s comments. Please do more of these.
  • JW
    J W.
    13 January 2020 @ 19:09
    Thoroughly enjoyed both interviews. The humor and ‘emperor has no clothes’ nature of Dave Collum’s narrative is great. I also enjoyed hearing a non ‘Fintwit’ insider articulate his vision on various aspects on Financial markets. That, and Zuby’s response to ‘what gets you up in the morning’ was excellent. Respect ! I like this concept Tony Greer - looking forward to your next off the beaten path choice ....
  • BP
    Bryce P.
    13 January 2020 @ 18:12
    Dave Collum was awesome. Please have him back soon!!!!
  • FG
    Frazer G.
    13 January 2020 @ 17:25
    Two fantastic contrasting interviews!
  • DN
    Douglas N.
    13 January 2020 @ 16:43
    Huge Dave Collum fan. Every time I look at him, I hear "Marty, 1.21 Gigwatts!"
  • PG
    Philippe G.
    13 January 2020 @ 16:29
    Excellent - appreciate these "off-the-beaten-path" chats. The combination of interesting/unique guests + Tony G. always delivers!
  • TS
    Timothy S.
    13 January 2020 @ 10:40
    We owe David Collum. At considerable personal risk, he pushes back against university campus "crazies". On rare occasion, he uses his considerable analytical skills to slay a financial sacred cow that others have missed. And, he does this with such good humor. However, given his rather pedestrian view of financial markets, his contribution to Real Vision is best confined to comment sections.
  • HK
    H K.
    13 January 2020 @ 10:11
    Amazing interviews - can't understand the large number of dislikes here - the collum one was posted earlier as 'the lost interview' - the zuby one is new - very good
  • SM
    S M.
    13 January 2020 @ 10:09
    Great interviews and "out of the box"; it's good to see a chemists' view and what he is thinking and also to hear a Millennial and his views on our current world.
  • GC
    George C.
    11 January 2020 @ 13:07
    What's the basis of having someone on who's been so wrong for so long? What credibility is there? I understand RealVision's reasons for not challenging interviewees, but it really does limit the usefulness of many of these interviews (and, by extension, the value of RealVision). Also, we don't need to pay a subscription fee to know that Professor Collum believes (quite a few free podcasts out there plus lots of writings and tweets).
    • AB
      Alberto B.
      11 January 2020 @ 13:52
      Agree. Over the past weeks i have been listening only interviews on youtube.
    • DS
      Dan S.
      11 January 2020 @ 14:45
      If Collum's humor passed you by...
    • JA
      John A.
      11 January 2020 @ 15:26
      Well, even if the market doesn't agree with him currently, would you say that the problems someone brings to light are without merit? Do we really believe that the Fed can do this forever? I don't, and I'm also not bullish on gold. I view gold as a fear asset that will never pay me for owning it. A zero-coupon bond that needs to be dug out of the ground and is traded based on scarcity yet has limited uses that won't support the asset price unless it gets a certain type of market. But that doesn't mean that if the world gets really scared that some crazy things won't happen and it will go up because people believe it will go up. Being right or wrong is a matter of timing. If everyone believes something else, it doesn't matter if you are right or wrong because you can't take on the world (or the Fed). If you remember 2006, the market was nuts then but nothing happened till 2 years later. You could agree with his thought process even if you don't agree with the conclusions or the timing. It's good to listen to contrarian views. They challenge you to test your own beliefs. I find value in people's thought process more than their conclusions, however. I believe everyone needs to make it their individual responsibility to draw their own conclusions rather than wait for someone to tell them what is going to happen. And if I personally don't surround myself with different ideas, I worry that I am doing less thinking and more following.
    • MK
      Michael K.
      12 January 2020 @ 22:18
      He doesn’t hide anything including having been wrong. Realvision is so cheap if you’re bothered that you can hear similar things on podcasts, and not every guest is druckenmiller, I feel for you.
  • TR
    Thomas R.
    12 January 2020 @ 18:03
    At one point in time I had 4 BTC at 60€ each. Sold it at 120. I felt very good.. until it doubled again, and again, and again.. Should have sold half each time it doubled or sth. like that..
  • RM
    Richard M.
    12 January 2020 @ 17:34
    Really enjoy listening to Dave Collum - he is truly an iconoclast in the real sense of the word! He's spot on regarding the Fed Heads (all of them are super smart individuals but because of their job they have to be intellectually dishonest to try and keep the "system" together). Anyway, Tony did a great job interviewing him. Thanks!
  • RC
    Ronald C.
    12 January 2020 @ 05:25
    Why would I listen to a man who negatively characterizes most contemporary Fed Chairmen and has made very poor investment decisions. It's hard to be so brilliant! Please go home.
  • PG
    P G.
    12 January 2020 @ 01:29
    What is Fintwit? He referred to it multiple times, I googled and nothing came up.
    • DB
      Douglas B.
      12 January 2020 @ 03:19
      People who interact with each other on Twitter to discuss Finance, Economics, & Investing.
    • IS
      Ilya S.
      12 January 2020 @ 03:30
      Financial community on Twitter
  • AW
    Andrew W.
    12 January 2020 @ 00:29
    Again with the "didn't buy bitcoin at $10 so I won't get any at $20k" and "it's a wave I missed".
  • SM
    Stefan M.
    11 January 2020 @ 07:31
    Dave, “Switzerland will be called Germany in 50 years”? You must be kidding...shows how little you know about the world...or did you even mean Sweden? 🤣 Back to the drawing board... 🙄
    • it
      ian t.
      11 January 2020 @ 10:22
      I think he was saying that it is difficult to know how the world will look like in 50 years' time
    • PG
      P G.
      12 January 2020 @ 00:29
      Come on! Take a joke...
  • DS
    Dan S.
    11 January 2020 @ 15:25
    Re Zuby's advice, are index funds in UK run better than in USA? The USA sheep are all herded in ETF index funds who's NAV balance mechanism has hidden counter-party risk which will come forward in a meltdown and inflame it as well.
    • RV
      Ryan V.
      11 January 2020 @ 19:40
      Can you elaborate with examples please?
  • DS
    Dan S.
    11 January 2020 @ 14:50
    Best Advice "If I'm wrong, will I forgive myself." AKA Precautionary Principle. The world has forgotten it. Madness!
  • TR
    Thomas R.
    11 January 2020 @ 12:14
    Is it just me or did the interview with Rudy get cut off?
  • PB
    Pieter B.
    11 January 2020 @ 11:20
    I truly enjoyed this interview! Fantastic work Tony, Dave & Zuby! Dave was very refreshing with straight remarks like "I wanna buy stuff that has been burned to the ground". Lovin it! Lots of great insights. Thanks a lot!