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jlWhy don't you live in ShangHai instead of Singarpore, if China is good engouh? He never tells the truth.
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RWWhat the heck is going on with the globes in the background of this video? The wide shots have a large globe in the background with the Western hemisphere facing the camera, and the close-up shots have a medium globe with Asia facing the camera. There doesn't seem to be any disruption in the audio between the two shots. It seems decidedly odd. I suppose they recorded it twice.
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ABRogers is the epitome of a boomer with TDS.
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MS"Now we don't need Hong Kong anymore"?
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PGHis views on China continue to be worrying as it portends the end of democracy
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WWI thought it was a great interview and the interviewer engaged just enough to let Jim speak about a variety of topics. And for you idiots that think Jim is old and doesn’t know about modern economics ... Lol .... you are going to be in for the surprise of your lifetime, and I don’t mean that in a good way.
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TJAnybody can call out "Recession" or "Depression" every month or year, just to wait until that happens. Also I can hardly find any reasoning behind his opinions. He might be a great trader; however, I can hardly find any insight or reasoning in most of his interviews.
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SBThe one issue that investors like Jim seem to overlook is that western prosperity has been built on a bedrock of democracy. Democracy does more than simply channel the majority view - it acts as a pressure relief valve. In the west, every 4 to 8 years, we change governments and for a period we temporarily inject hope and release accumulated tensions. China has no such relief valve. Since 1989, it gas bought time by buying the populace off with rapidly rising prosperity. Should the growth rate falter, there is no place for tensions to go other than in street protests. Jim is right, the American Century was not one uniterupted growth story but a series of booms and busts but, underneath it all, the U.S. had democracy to absorb the fall out. China does not.
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clJim Rogers is a treasure chest and I am personally grateful to listen to him. Thank you.
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MPterrible pretentious interviewer
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DF"I feel like he throws out a lot of opinions with little to no real support or analysis to back up his ideas." That is exactly what his employer said about him as a young man, only they were proved badly wrong because he is extremely thorough in his research. In fact, he knew pertinent things they themselves didn't. When he passes on we will find out exactly how successful he has been. Similarly, after the crisis has had its way, replay this interview and then mark his card. However, at this point in time, it is but good advice.
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DMthis overrated old timer knows nothing about the world today. But dumb media keep bringing him back time after time again to feed a dumb crowd. That's a good thing because the majority loses. Btw, I hear more than a few times Jim Rogers keep saying he owns a lot of dollar, if you truly owns a lot you don't advertise it. Plain logic.
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KAI don't have a problem with his views. I have a problem with his absolute certainty on everything of which he speaks. My approach as an investor is to question everything including my own views. Talk to me in probabilities; not "never" and "always" on every single issue.
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GSNo IP theft by the Chinese??? A Chinese planted spy tried to steal all the code for Apples car project. This is one example of hundreds. No bailouts & will let companies go bankrupt? The Chinese have bailed in three banks this year alone. Seems jim has drunken the coolaid
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TBvery good inside information about Hong Kong, China simply doesn't care, their plan is to gradually stop using the dollar, along with Russia, India, the Middle East, and Europe
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NII enjoy Jim Rogers. Wish I could sit down and chat with him.
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KWAfter watching the video. First impression is he still bashes the west while endorse the Chinese "market". My problem with his opinion is the trade war is not about trade. Its about survival of democracy in/around SE Asia and whether the democratic west continue to tolerate the actions of the communist party to allow it to expand with its influence. A big difference between corporate espionage for competitive purpose vs. state espionage for the purpose of oppressing your opposition (and friends) with force. I am surprised Jim still continue to buy into the "China Dream"
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jaThe interviewer should have been Kyle Bass .... that would have been a great discussion. Keep it up.
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RBNot the right person to be interviewing Jim Rogers... at all
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PPI feel like he throws out alot of opinions with little to no real support or analysis to back up his ideas. He has pushed investing in China for over a decade and been dead wrong on it for a decade. I am sure he will be correct eventually, but he missed the entire US bull market which is a colossal blunder. It might take another 30-50 years before he is correct. You may be dead before he is ever correct. He almost certainly will be.
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KKWhat a terribly poor interviewer. Completely oblivious to assets being given by Jim and completely superficial airhead type follow ups. wow ruined it for me.
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GGThe best!!!
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ZYI would like to read more about the peg of HKD, and their central bank history. Which I think is the last defence line for investor in HK, and capital to stay in HK, once that broken. It is the real end of HK in my view.
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TDI like his Russian Sovereign Bond idea in RUB but how do you buy them from the U.S.? He’s right, they’re extremely pessimistic on them over there.
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SGRespectfully, the turn on Brussels really began when Brexit voted in and many leaders began to understand Brussels had failed, and such a colossal turn could happen to their economy. Mixed with further deterioration of specific economies and the structure that augments Germany and France only to see Itally and Greece rot, et al an overall bifurcation of the Eurozone economies essentiall. Essentially, The Euro experiment is bogus. So will disagree with Jim here on staying in the Euro. As well, England will have its currency hit, but then cut rates, which they have held off on, and will eventually strike beneficial unilateral deals, and with their currency at par to various countries begin a season of renewed extended growth. Of course, world growth will matter. This is a 1 to 3 years away. I think Jim discounts that if Trump wins second term and China's manufacturing is decimated and moved elsewhere, you are buying a country for what? It's not as simple as he thinks. Ultimately what is China. Even with billions in PE and FDI, its what then as this accelerates. China is now in a constant downtrend of growth - their numbers are lies. and the debt in the country exceeds all, which he got wrong, because of the unreported debt. To end complimentary, Jim sees the world far different then most. And I appreciate this interview. Always interesting.
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RGI could've googled any youtube video of Jim & he'd sound the same. ZERO new insight. Interviewer doesn't challenge his viewpoints. Moreover the title of the interview is wrong. It should be called how to bash the west. Two thumbs down.
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RGWould have loved to see Kyle Bass interview Jim Rogers. Would've been a great way to see through the BS. I feel Jim Rogers has some dough in China he can't pull out :)
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XSI would like RealVision to invite Armstrong to debate with Kyle Bass. Armstrong is predicting by 2030 China will become the financial capital of the world. US has another 200 years of dark history, which scares me.
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PDRogers is right. "Intellectual property theft" is a scam thought up by trial lawyers to get rich. How's this: why doesn't America file a patent on the English language? Then it can call anyone it wants a "thief" and bomb the heck out of them. Microsoft "stole" the Windows idea from Apple who stole it from the Palo Alto Research Center. If you call that "theft" you stifle innovation. Property is what you can feel and touch. Ideas are free.
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ELJim is always highly intellectual and fascinating. I worried that the interviewer would fall asleep or out of his chair at any moment:
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EKIntellectual property theft is equated to "competition". Respect Rogers but a pretty cynical view of human conduct and capitalism. So maybe all is fair in war and that is what we effectively have albeit under other auspices.
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bmTariffs are still very low in historic terms. China is looking more like Argentina than the successor of the US.Jim is very confident about his long term views and he has been often very wrong in the medium term. Being early is very similar to being wrong.
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DDHello Basic question regarding a term used in the interview: “buying the dollar”. What does this mean in practice? I’m guessing that just buying physical US dollars is one option but I suspect that what this really means is buying T-Bills or some other easy to trade ETF or bond. I would be most grateful if anyone could provide a reference or suggest where I could find further information on this topic. Perhaps an older video here on Real Vision? Perhaps a website or perhaps just a quick reply. Thank you very much
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TBI take it he likes maps.
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GWLet's steal Huawei's IP then, it's simply how the world works according to Jim (in a world without rule of law..
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DRIt seems the tone of some ppl commenting is that Jim is a chinese shill. But I think he's a patriot. He retains US citizenship when instead he could easily have punted it years ago to become Singaporean - as I did - to become taxfree. Instead, he remains US and thus pays US income tax for which he gets no benefit other than the right to a passport which frankly is no better (and arguably worse) than a Singaporean passport. So a true patriot indeed. Jimmy may have a different perspective than some others, which comes from living abroad for many years in Asia, or maybe Europe, which exposes you to different experiences you don't get when staying put like a potted plant. Jimmy is one of the more refreshing voices on RV. I think I recall he was on in the first year too. Please bring him back again if possible.
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XFI find him a bit arrogant, especially for being wrong on a lot for so long...
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CLJim twice stated Ben Bernanke said the Federal Reserve could 'buy anything' and that nothing in its charter would forbid the FED from buying stocks or ETFs or anything else. I'm thinking he's wrong and that BB said no such thing.
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THMatthew Milsom -- Let's hear more from him, please.
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APAny guesses on Russian stock mentioned? Mobile telesystem maybe?
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LAThis dude has been calling US$ collapse for almost 10 years now. He's become a CCP propagandist now.
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APNo IP theft? 🤨
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PPWith Chinese rich wanting to diversify out of RMB by buying assets in USD, CAD,Euro and AUD and sending all their kids out of China to study the western way, it is amusing to see someone is doing the opposite. One of them is right, I don’t suspect Mr. Rogers has a clue. One belt one road is a failure of epic proportions. Just look at the current account deficit it has given countries like Pakistan. The only comment I agree is that trump is playing with fire by weaponizing USD.
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MBI have always liked listening to Jim and this interview was no exception.
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RGRather have Kyle bass on China
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JIf you listen to past interviews of Jim he said nothing new! It is like a re play!
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GEI came across Jim Rodgers of Fox Busimess Saturday show in the early 2000's. He said instead of entering finance one should be a farmet. I became a farmer and have not regretted the decission. I liked the Jim Rodgers of the 2000's instead of the Jim Rodgers of this interview.
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NOForced myself to finish the interview after the 2 colossally ignorant comments in the beginning: 1. Noone cares about IP theft and 2, companies don't go bankrupt in the US. The company i used to work for had chinese copy cats sending our clients OUR DRAWINGs for equipment they were selling without our knowledge which killed us in china... and the same company (Weatherford) Just went bankrupt!!
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FCI am Indian and I know a few things about India. I believe India is the singular best investment opportunity in the world today - vibrant democracy, huge english speaking middle class, young and growing demographics, open economy, stable political system, entrepreneurial spirit. It is bizarre that India does not figure much in Jim's thinking much. On a different note, RVTV should bring on Rakesh Jhunjhunwala from India - that would be one amazing interview.
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SSIt's my understanding from people directly involved in China, they were required to disclose their IP source codes and other critical manufacturing methods or they were not allowed to operate in China. This requirement was sanctioned by the previous administrations dating back to Nixon. Other RV guests including several successful Chinese businessmen have confirmed the real threat China poses. If they purchased the IP, that would be true competition. Regulatory force is socialism/communism. China has begun to cleanup their enormous horrible pollution problems which the USA exported to satisfy the EPA. Pollution kills everything and does not discriminate. Jim is right about historical climate change was everything is in cycles. Taxing the world for climate change is again regulatory power grab and people everywhere should wake up and push back. I'll pay higher prices to force the reduction of pollution but not to line the pockets of bureaucrats! Socialism is dying. Excellent interview, but I agree Jim should be more forthcoming with ways to help RV subscribers to survive the coming bear market.
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CDWonder why he's living in Singapore and not China....
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JSSure seems like everyone is expecting a dollar spike.
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MMLove his open mind. The world -read our leaders- could learn here.
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PBJim you are a true inspiration! Thank you for the conversation!
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SWFinancial freedom. n. A condition wherein one can have multiple bestsellers in a major world economy but remain blissfully unaware as to that status, as well as the content and title of said works.
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IFI think this old suuthern boy has lost a step or his damn mind. How corrupted have you become Jim? Teaching his children mandarin... yeah he’s in knee deep with the Chinese. “Nobody has come out and claimed the Chinese have stolen their IP” ... “and if they had the US did it to Britain in textiles 200 years ago and so that’s how the world works”. I’m sorry Jim we don’t have to accept this. And furthermore the US was not a hostile nation to England that challenged the safety of the English people. The Chinese model goes well beyond IP theft (which no CEO will admit to publicly or else they would be fired, come on Jim “think around corners” like you said). Who wants to go in front of the spectacle of congress and admit that? Anyhow watch “Rotten” on (liberal rag) Netflix specifically the bees episode and the garlic episode. You have real industry explaining in plain language how the Chinese cheat trade Jimbo.
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wjAwesome interview. Although I don’t agree with his views on china, now I understand his thinking. I still think we need a regime change in China. You cant have a country that big and with so many intelligent people being ruled by a bunch of thugs.
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wmI always leave Jim with a feeling if have heard this interview before. Pity he doesn’t have more thought provoking ideas.
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WHYou realized the UK is in deep trouble when a British man tells you Tourism is the only thing they got now....
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JWGym Rogers bday is coming up! Same day as 1987 crash.
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GHHe makes me laugh. If only it was as easy as he makes it sound. ... "Nothing is jumping off the page... got to buy this disaster"... maybe have a look at South Africa. LOTS of "cheap" companies. PEs on 2s and 3s. Quite a few NA#s though. Bought a Zimbabwe stock.... WOW!
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WCJim gets the HK/China situation. HK has lost it's competitiveness and importance to China (as an overseas chinese living here since mid-90's, tough to admit but signs are all around). HK was 27% of China's GDP in 1993, recently < 3%. HK was the shipping hub, the manufacturing hub (HK'ers ran the factories in Guangdong), the financial hub, now everything is done in China or bigger and better. Case in point, everyone/everything in China uses mobile payment (Alipay / WePay), groceries are purchased online and delivered at the time you specify, ride-sharing everywhere, etc while in HK Uber is still banned. IMHO, Jim is correct in his assessment that China doesn't need HK, having said that, China has been including HK in its plans including the Greater Bay area project, opening the stock connect links between HK and China stock exchanges for A-share trading, etc. Unfortunately the average HK'er would not benefit from these initiatives, listen to the interview with Joseph Cheng to understand why.
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ddjim rogers has been wrong for about 30 years
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DKIf Realvision could have an interview/discussion between Kyle Bass and Jim Rogers..... the whole western civilisation could benefit
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JSGood old Jimmy Rogers - new interview, same stories. Still love the guy though!
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BHLike his investment style