The Cost of Activism in Putin’s Russia

Featuring Bill Browder

The inspiring, emotional and tragic story of Bill Browder’s Hermitage Capital in Russia is perhaps the most powerful piece of film we’ve ever featured on Real Vision. After his world beating Hermitage fund was devastated by the Russian default, Bill Browder took on the oligarchs and won, in an epic tale straight from the pages of a spy novel. But as the Russian government turned on him, the story turned from corruption to tragedy. Filmed on February 1, 2017 in London.

Published on
28 March, 2017
Topic
Politics, Emerging markets, Career
Duration
68 minutes
Asset class
Equities, Commodities, Currencies
Rating
31

Comments

  • DC

    Dave C.

    16 9 2018 19:43

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    The most disappointing result of all of this is after nearly two years, real vision still has not chosen to allow an alternative narrative to be presented to their viewers. Plenty of options are available and I know of at least two credible sources who were willing to voice their opinions on Browder - Cohen and Krainer. Sadly RV has chosen not to purse this.

    I do hope the RV producers think long and hard about allowing a response to Browder and also, in the future, think twice about listening to whoever recommended them to interview Browder in the first place. I think you have been poorly advised and played.

    https://tomluongo.me/2018/09/15/stakes-rise-browder-gate-eu-threaten-cyprus-article-7/

  • fc

    frank c.

    26 7 2018 12:40

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    https://vimeo.com/281295276

  • sm

    stephane m.

    25 7 2018 11:03

    3       0

    Maybe RV should look at these links: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/corruption/another-banned-documentary-hidden-from-americans-concerning-russia/ and https://www.real.video/5811804296001 and think about erasing this video... The guy is a scam

  • DC

    Dave C.

    23 7 2018 23:25

    3       0

    The video banned by Browder is also now available

    The Magnitsky Act: Behind the Scenes

    https://www.newnationalist.net/2018/07/22/andrey-nekrasovs-banned-documentary-on-the-magnitsky-and-browder-affair-can-now-be-viewed-online/

  • RT

    Rune T.

    17 7 2018 01:18

    3       0

    The truth about Browder is starting to come out: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-16/putin-claims-us-intelligence-agents-funneled-400-million-clinton-campaign

  • DC

    Dave C.

    29 4 2018 20:23

    1       1

    Bill Browder: Links and Resources on #Browdergate
    http://populist.tv/2018/01/20/bill-browder-links-and-resources-to-understand-controversy/

  • DC

    Dave C.

    22 3 2018 21:37

    1       1

    Moving beyond parody

    http://theduran.com/want-to-know-who-has-been-driving-all-the-scandals-lately-he-is-right-here-video/

  • KS

    Kathleen S.

    4 2 2018 15:45

    3       1

    This is the documentary that Bill Browder didn't want anyone to see, actually threatened law suits to places that had free screenings in Norway -- this guy is evil

    The Magnitsky Act. Behind the Scenes'

  • DC

    Dave C.

    2 2 2018 08:39

    3       1

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/02/01/meet-corrupt-billionaire-who-has-brought-about-new-cold-war.html

  • DC

    Dave C.

    17 1 2018 18:58

    2       1

    Time to bring this saint back to rv for Grant to grill https://www.thenation.com/article/why-is-the-media-ignoring-crucial-parts-of-the-simpson-testimony/

  • KS

    Kathleen S.

    8 1 2018 18:59

    4       1

    Max Blumenthal is a great great investicative reporter and he describes Browder as a vulture capitalist (in Russia) this entire story is a lie --(sounds like one too), Magnitsky’s death appears to be the first Russian death Browder ever cared about in his 15 years of milking the country dry during the tragically deadly 1990s and beyond.

  • DC

    Dave C.

    22 12 2017 21:24

    2       1

    And there's more
    https://100r.org/2017/10/magnitsky/

  • DC

    D C.

    30 11 2017 01:02

    1       0

    I would give a ruble, a dollar, heck, even a bit coin to figure out which side is telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Thanks for the cognitive dissonance RV viewers (Dave C. et al.)

    This is why I love the First amendment - the right to comment and share diverging views on videos!

  • DC

    Dave C.

    7 11 2017 18:42

    4       2

    This puts a fork into Browder
    https://consortiumnews.com/2017/10/28/guardians-of-the-magnitsky-myth/

  • KS

    Kathleen S.

    5 10 2017 23:43

    4       2

    This all sounds like a hollywood movie -- and I do not believe a word of it, something does not smell right.

  • DC

    Dave C.

    30 9 2017 20:52

    5       2

    Must read Deconstructing Dangerous Deception of Bill Browder by Alex Krainer - Censored by amazon - but available to read here http://dxczjjuegupb.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/TheKillingOfWilliamBrowder_PrintLayout_6x9-1.pdf

  • VK

    Vladimir K.

    13 9 2017 11:51

    1       1

    Funny and sad to hear outside perspective on the country I grew up in. I remember reading the news about Hermitage in the newspapers.

  • MT

    Marilyn T.

    26 8 2017 19:21

    7       0

    Grant, perhaps you could interview hedge fund manager Alex Krainer to get the other side of the story. He has written a book that apparently debunks Browder's account.

  • RH

    Robert H.

    13 8 2017 04:14

    0       0

    Red Notoce is a fantastic book, well worth reading. But in Russian business circles it's apparently common knowledge that Browder is CIA. Who really knows, too confusing for me.

  • DY

    Damian Y.

    9 8 2017 12:12

    2       4

    If you liked this interview then buy Bill's book, Red Notice. It's the best book I've read all year. The story he tells in the book is absolutely amazing, a great page turner.

    Bill, you're a real hero, I have total respect for you.

  • DC

    Dave C.

    28 7 2017 22:41

    3       1

    Yet more light shone on this saintly character http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-28/hermitage-capital-founder-testifies-fusion-gps-trump-dossier-creator-worked-russian-

  • JB

    Jack B.

    26 7 2017 13:29

    1       0

    Here's Martin Armstrong's take on Browder, Safra, and Russia.......https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/corruption/browder-russia-trump-safra/

  • PV

    Prakash V.

    24 7 2017 04:23

    0       0

    Absolutely riveting. I really appreciate RealVision incorporating all types of interviews in their spread to their subscribers. Thanx guys.

  • YZ

    Young Z.

    13 7 2017 05:30

    3       0

    Google for Nekrasov (anti Putin documentary maker and activist) who claims that Browder is a crook and happens to be pushing this story to cover up his own theft in Russia.

    https://euobserver.com/foreign/133221

  • DC

    Dave C.

    12 7 2017 21:06

    1       1

    For an apparently innocent philanthropist Mr Browder crops up in all manner of strange situations:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-12/russian-at-trump-tower-is-said-to-have-gathered-details-on-ziffs

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-12/how-hermitage-capital-ziff-brothers-and-clinton-global-initiative-prompted-trump-jr-

  • DC

    Darrell C.

    15 6 2017 01:14

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    Powerful, life changing...

  • DR

    David R.

    8 6 2017 17:22

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    WOW, just incredible!!

  • JL

    Jim L.

    29 5 2017 09:38

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    Excellent interview. What an immensely impressive, humble man.

  • DW

    David W.

    2 5 2017 11:01

    1       0

    I started to watch this interview, through the TTMYGH link, whilst half concentrating on some other matter. It was not too far into this interview that all other activities were discontinued. Total immersion. Riveting. Huge admiration for both Bill and Grant. Thankyou!

  • CB

    Clinton B.

    24 4 2017 22:55

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    incredible interview.

  • B

    Bojo .

    24 4 2017 08:18

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    Great interview and I respect his experience. Still, there is a lot of projection and hypocrisy about the good and bad guys (all but US). So definitely, Catherine Austin Fitts is a good example to show that something like this happens in the US all the time, just in a less brutal, more sophisticated way.. but with similar results.

  • Sv

    Sid v.

    14 4 2017 21:10

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    one of the most educational, powerful presentations ever provided. Thank you.

  • JA

    Jason A.

    10 4 2017 10:47

    1       2

    Wow I really admire this man. Unreal what some people have been through and how corrupt some other places are. RIP Sergei, you didn't die in vain.

  • WP

    William P.

    10 4 2017 02:56

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    A wonderful conversation with an extrodinary mam. Everyone should read Red Notice. Thanks for the interview!

  • MH

    Marco H.

    8 4 2017 10:59

    2       1

    initially I had skipped this interview as one of the many stories of places I will not invest in. Thanks to Raoul's insider story I decided to view it after all. Very glad I did. This story needs to be told and to be heard around the world. Of course a thank you to Bill but certainly a big thank you to Grant for yet another great interview.

  • J

    J. .

    8 4 2017 03:37

    6       0

    Put it on Youtube!

  • J

    J. .

    8 4 2017 03:35

    0       1

    Makes me wonder what Vladdy is up to in Syria. Thrump may have his number.

  • MD

    Marian D.

    7 4 2017 19:30

    5       4

    Vladimir is obviously a subscriber as well.. Who the hell gives a thumb down to this interview!?
    Sneaky russians..

  • MW

    MIKE W.

    4 4 2017 22:15

    4       3

    Is it me or are there more crazies in the RVTV comment section than usual?

  • sr

    sam r.

    4 4 2017 20:39

    1       1

    Wow, what an incredible story!!!

  • DF

    David F.

    4 4 2017 15:37

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    Truly excellent

  • RE

    Rachel E.

    4 4 2017 14:18

    5       1

    Truly amazing, how naïve we are in the west. We go to WAR over lies, believe everything we haer or read.
    SHOW ME THE PROOF!!!!
    Jack McCain is a necon & loves WAR with Russia.

    Putin is bad, Xi is bad
    There are a lots of bad people in the world!!!!!!

  • AS

    Amareshwar S.

    4 4 2017 05:20

    2       4

    Billy,
    This is one of the best narratives i have ever heard. Hope you get justice to sergei and all those who faced injustice . God Speed!.
    Your story proves that all obstacles can be won by honesty, hard work, perseverance and sincerity.
    Cheers,
    Sid

  • VS

    Victor S.

    3 4 2017 14:59

    5       5

    Who are the 18 people who gave a thumbs down to this interview??? This story would make a great movie that would make James Bond look like a Mickey Mouse ....

  • DY

    Damian Y.

    3 4 2017 12:11

    7       1

    RVT you need to put this one on YouTube to get the story out.

  • hr

    hamza r.

    2 4 2017 09:38

    20       2

    I have no real personal take on politics in Russia/West and in no way is my post here trying to take sides on either party. But this was an excellent video and brilliantly interviewed as always by Grant. I tremendously enjoy the depth and intellect of content we are provided with here at RV on investment related information. However RV here crossed over into something much more powerful and moving. I have to stand up, applaud and recommend more interviews such as this one.

  • JV

    JP V.

    2 4 2017 08:29

    2       5

    I understand that this story needed to be told. But now I would very much like to hear about what the american (secret) services have been up to with citizens from across the world.

  • DC

    Dave C.

    1 4 2017 22:30

    3       1

    The spirit of McCarythism is not only reborn and thriving in the West, but is clearly infiltrating and polluting this comment thread. Placing labels or imagined political values on individuals with clear aim of suppressing dissenting voices can never be a good thing, least of all in an environment such as this one. Experience in the past has indicated moderation to be a solution, but what a pity it would be if that had to be implemented here. Realvision maybe has a dilemma to face.

  • JH

    Josh H.

    1 4 2017 22:05

    4       0

    @Jens V: Apologies if my words offend, but you misunderstand me. In no way was I discussing my own personal opinion about what's right or wrong or what I wish would happen. I was just trying to convey my understanding of (1) the history of a particular institution (in this case, the country of Russia), (2) the apparent key drivers/priorities of that institution's decision-makers historically (in this case, the strategic priorities of Russian leaders), (3) the current situation that institution finds itself in (in this case, Russia in 2017), and (4) how current leader(s) of that institution may respond to their current situation based on those key drivers/priorities (in this case, how will Putin act going forward). Similar to how many RV presenters study economic/monetary history and attempt to use that knowledge to: (1) assess where we are in the current cycle and (2) speculate what may unfold going forward based on that historic precedent.

  • JV

    Jens V.

    1 4 2017 20:40

    4       4

    @Josh H: It looks like you belong to the camp of people who try very hard to understand Putin's actions from a historical perspective as if it somehow justifies those actions. You don't seem to have a problem with Putin's corruption or the way Russia is being governed, but maybe you just have a different taste in government than me.

    Did it occur to you that Ukraine, the "absolutely critical, non-negotiable buffer state" you mention is a country of 42 million people who might not share your taste in government either? That they perhaps aspire to be more than a buffer-state for yesterday's "super power"? That these millions of people may have hopes and aspirations that go beyond living in a kleptocracy ruled by a corrupt elite? Did it occur to you that maybe some (most) of the 144 million people living in Russia also aspire for more?

    Sure, it's in Putin's interest to perpetuate the image of the west as "the enemy", and to remind his people that they're always in danger of invasion, and therefore they need to trust him with absolute power and control. But that doesn't mean it's in the interest of the Russian people. Many other European countries have been invaded throughout history, but they don't use it as an excuse for oppression of the people.

    Yes, Putin has stabilized Russia and given the country some direction, which it lacked. But is this direction good for the Russian people or just for Putin and his cronies? I think the latter.

  • JH

    Josh H.

    1 4 2017 16:03

    5       2

    For anyone who thinks/thought Putin is an isolationist, the history of Russia shows that from the get-go, he's been acting in line with the centuries-old geopolitical priorities of the country. Previous Russian leaders have pursued these same expansionary goals with varying levels of success.

    Russia has two primary inherent weaknesses that drive its leaders to expand: (1) Russia has no defensible geographic borders; and (2) Russia has no access to ports which are usable year-round.

    Russia also knows that in the past few centuries, it has faced an existentially-threatening invasion on two occasions: (1) by Napoleon in 1812 and (2) by Hitler during WW2. In both of those instances, the threat to Russia came from Northern Europe. And in both instances, the invasion was thwarted in large part due to Russia's strategic depth created by large buffer zones along its European periphery. These buffer zones, which led fighting to begin far from Moscow in Poland in both cases, allowed Russian forces to wear down the invader over a long geographic distance while continuously falling back deeper and deeper into Russian territory until the enemy was defeated.

    With these historical precedents in mind, and with the EU and NATO's continual push eastward, Russia is in no way placated by the argument that "it's okay because we mean you no harm and we're benign forces co-existing peacefully." Russia knows that things can change drastically in the course of only a decade or two. Case in point, in 1900, everyone in Europe thought they had reached a state of harmony in which war could never happen again. Yet within 20 years, we had WW1. And after WW1, Germany looked finished, but then within another 20 years, we had Hitler. So when the next turning point that nobody's expecting comes, Russia wants all Western forces to be as far from Moscow as possible.

    Before the Ukraine crisis began a few years ago, Russia found itself in a situation where:
    (1) though internally stabilized temporarily, externally Russia's sphere of influence was weaker than it had been since the early-mid 1600s; (2) that the absolutely critical, non-negotiable buffer state of Ukraine was on the verge of starting down a path which would see it tilt into the West's orbit, bringing the West to Russia's doorstep; and (3) that demographic headwinds facing Russia in the future shorten its window to successfully expand its influence before its power wanes.

    What happened in Ukraine (and Georgia previously) is not surprising. My bet would be Putin's expansion has not stopped. And even in a scenario where Putin is overthrown/removed/sidelined as Russia's leader in the future, my guess would be that could only happen in a situation where certain Russian factions didn't think Putin was expanding aggressively/quickly enough, and that the Russian leader who would take over from Putin in that case would likely make us wish we could deal with Putin again.

  • JH

    Josh H.

    1 4 2017 04:23

    2       1

    Separately, while watching the interview, I noticed that Browder said his purchase of Gazprom stock was at a 99.7% discount. In a different segment earlier in the interview, Browder stated that the conviction rate for people arrested in Russia was 99.7%. Given the issue with Gazprom during that 1999 period was people being concerned with management stealing oil/assets, perhaps the 99.7% discount was based on the fear of arrest and conviction of Gazprom management (and potential ensuing appropriation of all assets by the government)?

  • JH

    Josh H.

    1 4 2017 04:16

    10       0

    This interview was fascinating, and Grant did a superb job as always. However, after doing some more digging into Browder, I can't respect him. Below are some direct quotes from Browder himself (and tidbits from major articles) dating back to the early 2000s. He portrays himself in this interview as an innocent bystander picking up the crumbs. However, further research shows he was well aware of the risks from the get-go and that the capital he controlled put him right up there with the top Russian oligarchs. The affinity he expressed for Putin in the early 2000s appears to show he was fine with the lack of justice in Russia as long as he was personally benefiting and not affected, as I'm sure all the oligarchs would have felt. And even if he never personally interacted with Putin, simple quick Google searches show he's interacted with Dmitry Medvedev. Moreover, his apparent tax dodging (including revoking his U.S. citizenship in 1998 in large part to avoid taxes) is distasteful. And the fact that he used multiple SIM cards in his phone and employed armed bodyguards shows he was aware of the reality in Russia.

    DIRECT QUOTES
    March 14, 2004 New York Times article
    -In reference to Putin being perceived as increasingly authoritarian in 2004: "We want an authoritarian--one who is exercising authority over mafia and oligarchs," adding Putin "has turned out to be my biggest ally in Russia."
    -"It's an exaggeration that there's no free press here. The press may not be free to criticize Putin, but anyone else, they can."

    October 16, 2006 speech at Columbia Business School
    -Referring to Putin: "I was a great, great fan of his. And he was a great, great ally of mine."
    -Referring to the 2004 arrest and conviction of Mikhail Khodorkovsky: "The oligarchs began not only to pay their taxes but also to align themselves with President Putin and the government."

    May 21, 2006 NPR article
    -"I'm one of the biggest friends there is in Russia. I've brought $4 billion of capital. I've been extremely supportive in the West of their policies."
    -In response to getting his visa revoked: "This is the type of thing that happens all the time (in Russia). It just never happened to me before."

    OTHER TIDBITS IN MAJOR ARTICLES
    March 25, 2006 The Guardian article
    -His phone is regularly tapped, and he makes sensitive calls using his mobile phone rotating the SIM cards to avoid detection.

    July 24, 2008 New York Times article
    -Browder ran into soon-to-be Russia President Dmitry Medvedev at Davos Forum, where Medvedev agreed to pass along his visa request to Putin

    July 20, 2012 Der Spiegel article
    -To save on taxes, Browder established companies in remote regions of Russia, such as Kalmykia. He employed disabled veterans from the Soviet War in Afghanistan because that also Gabe him a tax break.
    -For a time, Browder employed 15 bodyguards who would sit with him in his living room, AK-47s resting on their knees.

  • KB

    Kreso B.

    31 3 2017 22:50

    2       0

    He bought database on the crossroad? Hahahaha...

  • WS

    William S.

    31 3 2017 21:38

    4       3

    Gary B: “60 Minutes, The Wall Street Journal, Forbes Magazine …” Icons of investigative rigour and journalistic integrity, one and all … right? Lol! As reliable sources of information, they constitute the ultimate passive investment strategy. “You need to widen your research a little.” Precisely what I have suggested to you and others who have fallen under the spell of a somewhat clever (but ultimately quite transparent) neocon-inspired propaganda gambit.

  • JH

    Jeff H.

    31 3 2017 19:22

    3       0

    This interview should be publicallly posted by RV.

  • GB

    Gary B.

    31 3 2017 19:10

    3       3

    William S-I did not say that everyone who doubts Browder's story is a Russian troll. The trolls exist and I'm sure a few have made comments. Your statement that everyone who has researched Browder comes away with doubt about his veracity is ludicrous. 60 Minutes, The Wall Street Journal, Forbes Magazine and others have done the extensive research and have published or televised reports backing the horrible treatment he received in Russia. You need to widen your research a little. As for McCarthyism, neither you nor I have threatened to ruin the other's reputation and ability to seek work in our careers. That's what McCarthyism was all about. You and I have a strong disagreement about Browder. That has nothing to do with McCarthyism. I respect your right to disagree with me. In the U.S. and most other countries in the world you are allowed to publicly disagree with the government. In Russia today if you get into a public dispute with Putin and/or his cronies the threat of prison or worse is a real possibility. Do some of your research and see where Navalny is spending his time these days or what happened to others who Putin saw as threats and who are now pushing up daisies. You have a good day.

  • DT

    Dmitry T.

    31 3 2017 16:40

    6       0

    I wonder why western world opened up to Russia when it was run by most of the time drunk Boris and for many instances by criminals and presently is hated by many when some sense of normalcy returned to russian people? If you remove Putins name from the narrative of Browder's story it simultaneously loses it's appeal and sensationalism. It is unfortunate that Browder and his colleagues ran into thugs within Russian Investigative Committee. Very sad that Sergey died. However I think this is exactly type of affairs Putin has been trying to fight over the years after he received Russia from Eltsin with war in Chechnya, oligarchs and very weak economy. Browder's fight to find justice put him in situation where he helped create a political weapon of choice of US hawks. Magnitsky act can be used literally against anyone people in Washington may wish to sanction unilaterally. Good intentions with usual results. US is spending $600 bln annually on armed forces. Trump just added another 50. US military establishment needs "enemies" like Russia to justify their business model. If it ever becomes for whatever reasons advantageous for US to normalise relations with Russia, then we will see reconciliation process start...

  • RA

    Ricardo A.

    31 3 2017 12:21

    1       0

    Its like watching a great movie. This is why I subscribe to RV, amazing

  • MG

    Mark G.

    31 3 2017 11:48

    3       1

    Amazing imterview! One of the best I have ever watched, anywhere.

  • CM

    Christina M.

    31 3 2017 11:47

    1       0

    wwwoowww

  • JV

    Jens V.

    31 3 2017 08:05

    3       2

    I would recommend Karen Dawisha as a possible interviewee on the subject of corruption in Russia. She is professor of political science at University of Miami and has written the book 'Putin's Kleptocracy' which comes highly recommended. It's very well researched and a step by step account of Putin's ascent to power and how he and his allies have amassed one of the largest fortunes on earth.

  • TS

    Todd S.

    31 3 2017 02:45

    2       1

    RV. Well done. So many lessons here.

  • WS

    William S.

    31 3 2017 02:02

    9       4

    And so ... with Gary B's comment below, the stalwart defenders of Bill Browder: Warrior for Truth and Justice have officially jumped the shark. Sure Gary, everyone who has recognized the obvious logical inconsistencies in Browder's tall-tale are *Russian Government Trolls*! The fact of the matter, as I see it, is that everyone who has actually taken the time to research Browder and his story has come away from the experience with a heightened sense of doubt regarding the man's veracity. But given that neo-McCarthyism has become so fashionable in recent months, it somehow does not surprise me to see it rear its ugly head in the context of comments to this interview. That said, what I consider most disturbing of all is that upwards of 98% of RVTV viewers -- ostensibly a considerably above-average slice of the western intellectual class -- has been so easily duped by a rickety tale which, with just a little bit of motivated research, is so easily exposed as nothing more than a neocon-inspired propaganda gambit.

  • SD

    Stephen D.

    31 3 2017 00:58

    9       3

    Wow, lots of commentary. Quite a few sceptics, maybe not all of them objective. But nobody has questioned the bald facts that Sergei Magnitsky, whilst just doing his job as a commercial lawyer was arrested and held for almost a year without trial and died in Matrosskaya Tishina Prison on November 16 2009 aged 37. Anyone thinking of doing business in Russia needs to remember this.

  • PD

    Philip D.

    30 3 2017 23:25

    3       0

    @Rachel E. In response to your comment "Real Vision is a business & investment media. Never mix politics & business. It is obvious this guest has political motives."- ---There is always three sides to a story & this is probably just one side. With that said: politics, religion & business (inclusive investments)they all sleep in the same bed; they all dirty the same linen.The sooner we realize the better! As always, just my 2cents :-)

  • GB

    Gary B.

    30 3 2017 21:20

    5       6

    This interview may set a new record for comments. Congrats to RV for a great interview. Some of you know that the Browder story is not new. It has been given somewhat wide coverage in the media over the years. What this man went through over the years is hard to believe but it is true. It has been collaborated by many sources. The Russian government trolls continue to try to discredit him as some in these comments are doing. It is interesting that a few subscribers from formerly Soviet controlled countries are confirming the wide use of disinformation historically by the Russians. Today is no different.

    RV, you have hit the big time with the trolls on this board trying to discredit anything that goes against what Putin wants in the press. Looking forward to the trolls loading up with thumbs down on my comments and any others not in line with their propaganda.

  • DC

    Dave C.

    30 3 2017 21:20

    5       0

    @PetterG Fascinated to know why the opinion of Martin Armstrong is not considered to relevant by you , but, hey, how about Seymour Hersch?

    https://www.thenation.com/article/by-screening-the-magnitsky-act-the-newseum-stood-up-for-the-first-amendment/

  • PG

    Petter G.

    30 3 2017 20:36

    4       4

    Jeeze, what an interview! I for one loved it. Thank you Grant. Great content that feels very relevant at this point in time.

    To the sceptics: If you want to try and miscredit Mr Brower then perhaps you should provide facts that come from other sources than the Russian government, Martin Armstrong or Israel Shamir (who is a known anti semite and holocaust denier). Just a thought...

  • RN

    Robert N.

    30 3 2017 17:05

    6       0

    Since we are looking for other voices with relevant history and linkages to Russia and finance, can I then suggest Solari Report's Catherine Austin Fitts and Paul Craig Roberts. If anyone is unaware of their history, just check their bios. Both have their supporters and detractors so probing interviews from RV would be very useful. As background here is the Austin Fitts/Saker interview on Russia and Putin https://solari.com/00archive/web/solarireports/2016/sr20160204_1.pdf

  • WS

    William S.

    30 3 2017 15:43

    7       1

    I add my voice to that of Dave C: Let's see an RV interview with Professor Stephen F. Cohen and/or James Carden (@thenation); provide some counter-balance to Browder's transparently tall-tale.

  • MB

    Mike B.

    30 3 2017 13:55

    8       0

    Perspective, please. I can understand the skepticism but when you have Russian oligarchs seemingly appear out of nowhere, you know something is amiss. I must say, Browder has caused me to question and perhaps now understand Putin and what might transpire down the road and it's not pleasant. I only have one issue with this interview, if this is, in fact, an accurate portrayal of events, how is it possible that Browder is still alive today given the extent to which he alleges Putin's Russia will go to silence its enemies? Grant once again hits it out of the park.

  • JS

    John S.

    30 3 2017 13:55

    5       0

    Interesting...there's no evil close to that perpetrated by governments and Russia is no stranger to worst of it. We might also recognize the very real threat our own governments pose. Though more artful than heavy handed Russians, they remain the single greatest threat to the things we hold dear as members of (mostly) free societies. #Opinion

  • DS

    David S.

    30 3 2017 13:48

    1       7

    The comments may have more to say about the commenters than the interview??? DLS

  • AB

    Andrew B.

    30 3 2017 12:34

    4       2

    Loved the book which demolished in 2 days. The whole story is amazing & Bill is a fabulous interviewee. No cynicism here. Well done Grant as well.

  • A1

    Animal 1.

    30 3 2017 09:21

    3       5

    Fascinating interview. Timely. Trump - Russia link hmmm...

  • JV

    Jens V.

    30 3 2017 08:59

    10       3

    @Dave C: I agree, let's have some more perspectives on the matter. Let's even have the Kremlin version of the story if need be. Let's get the facts out in the open. I'm sure that the more we learn the more plausible Browder's story will be to everyone.
    I'm not naive and I think there may be a lot more to the story than what we were told, but I strongly suspect that the main points of the story are true. And Magnitsky's case is not exactly an isolated event. What do you think usually happens to political dissenters in Russia? Do you think there is rule of law in Russia? Inviolable private property rights? Democracy? Freedom of speech? Why do you think there are massive protests in the streets?
    To what extent do you think that the Russian government is actively involved in manipulation of Western media, both in the US and Europe, to manipulate debate and democratic outcomes?
    Let's have some more RV videos about these issues. I'm all for it.

  • DF

    David F.

    30 3 2017 07:44

    4       3

    amazing

  • CE

    Carl E.

    30 3 2017 07:04

    7       3

    that was incredible

  • IO

    Igor O.

    30 3 2017 06:50

    12       2

    I'll summarie for everybodys convenience. In late 90s some forces inside and outside of Russia where willing to take over of russian natural resources. By putting Berezovsky in power. That didn't happen. Mister Browder was part of this story and still upset. I am glad that some RV viewers able to see trough BS.

  • GG

    Gerald G.

    30 3 2017 06:14

    15       3

    So lets see if I have this right. Basically it's a story of righteous American morality selflessly battling the forces of evil in a foreign land. While I have no doubt that Russia is a cesspool I doubt the story is quite as it has been made out. Americans love tall tales that promote their own delusions of superiority and divert attention away from the cesspool that exists right here in North American.

  • LC

    Liliana C.

    30 3 2017 06:07

    4       1

    What he describes is sadly commonplace in many countries around the world. I cannot first and foremost feel deeply saddened for the evil that exists within human beings. I also suspect that the interviewee had a direct or indirect strong connection to Putin, whereby interests were in fact aligned at times, and at odds at others.

  • AH

    Amer H.

    30 3 2017 05:21

    8       1

    Regardless of the interview, looking at the poverty in Russia and the actual natural wealth of the country and the way those Russian oligarchs live you can't deny the corruption of Putin and friends.. You can live in denial but that's easy cause u never lived this poverty and corruption

  • DC

    Dave C.

    30 3 2017 04:40

    28       2

    Well this interview has certainly stirred the pot.

    Cards on table, I am not convinced by the story this chap spins - no fault of the interviewer but using the links provided in previous comments can bring up lots of rabbit holes and even more question marks.

    Bravo for conducting the interview and lets have the topic of Russia covered further. For balance I would suggest getting Professor Stephen Cohen of NYU and Princeton. An expert on Russian history - someone who can add views on the situation in Russia during the 90's and an astute observer of the present relations between the USA and Russia.

    Finally, a massive thumbs down to the commentors who resorted to the tactics of youtube in responding to negative comments - //Russian propaganda machine // hangout in the dark corners of Zerohedge and Youtube too much//reviews are from Marin Katusa. He's got a man crush on Putin//viewers could dismiss the validity of this interview out of hand. With only a cursory knowledge of Russian history and literature coupled with Putin’s actions //articles calling Bull shit. With all the stories of human rights violations in Russia it is very hard not to believe all of the stories//

    If you think someone is wrong then construct an argument please. Leave the labeling and name calling to other places.

  • JM

    Jim M.

    30 3 2017 00:15

    6       1

    Where does one begin with the comments of Kathleen S. below.? Shouldn't we get our facts straight before engaging in character assassination? Is it accurate to simply "google" 'Keating Five' and lift a phrase labeling McCain as "reprehensible" from the prominent search results?

    McCain is no particular favorite of mine but he was the LEAST culpable in the Keating affair and every objective reading of that sordid story has him being included as the token republican in a group of democrats. Perhaps Kathleen S. ought to review the findings of the 1991 Senate Ethics Committee report.

  • GO

    Glenn O.

    29 3 2017 23:59

    5       6

    Very interesting. Even more interlesting are the articles calling Bull shit.
    With all the stories of human rights violations in Russia it is very hard not to believe all of the stories referred to in this interview

  • JC

    James C.

    29 3 2017 23:15

    14       9

    Unadulterated neocon propaganda. Could have come straight out of a PNAC discussion paper.

  • RT

    Rune T.

    29 3 2017 22:36

    19       8

    I call bullshyte! One only has to inquire about his Browder's heritage to understand this is Neocon propaganda. Some of the story was a little over the top, for instance street kids selling government databases on discs at intersections to drivers of vehicles stuck in traffic? Like everyone in Russia had a personal computer in the early 90's, not so!! There would have been very few people with a PC in Russia at that time. Also they removed Browder from Russia but left his money and people alone and he was some able to remove his money and people with no problems whatsoever?? Come on! Things don't add up.

  • JV

    Jens V.

    29 3 2017 22:25

    11       17

    Brilliant interview. Great guy.
    Amusing to read the comments, it seems that the Russian propaganda machine has found RV.
    Putin's Russia is reprehensible but given it's economy is the size of Spain's, it's amazing how much noise it can generate, and how much damage it can do.
    I look forward to the day when oil and gas are no longer vital commodities and countries like Russia and Saudi Arabia become truly irrelevant.

  • RE

    Rachel E.

    29 3 2017 21:05

    11       6

    Putin is a devil, so what. They are a lots of devils in this world. For God's sake, Let's take care of our own DEVILS first: Jack McCain, George W. & his team.

    First clean your own house, then criticize others.
    WE DO NOT WAR with anyone, unless we are attacked.
    These people who decide to go to war, don't send their sons to die!!!!!!!

  • MT

    Michael T.

    29 3 2017 19:42

    23       2

    This story that was so expertly crafted and told (from a storytelling technique perspective) took me on an emotional roller coaster ride and left me with a strong emotional anti- R. feeling. Whenever an event or story manages to wind me up this much I take a step back and try to find out why and how a message or event gets under my skin so intensely. This interview left me with the same kind of feeling I had after seeing a youtube video- allegedly filmed by terrorists- that shows them testing poisonous gas on a dog in a chamber and the poor helpless thing dying a horrible death. By cutting out all the noise (Story, Characters, incredible injustice and suffering) and focusing on the emotion this message creates within oneself one- in general- can spot attempts of manipulation. I am neither pro or anti any of the mentioned parties. The effect this story had on me was an initial strong emotional reaction towards one of them. In general I am very wary of stories that have this effect on me and remind myself that amongst intense power struggles no story is distinctly black and white and all players play dirty.

  • KS

    Kathleen S.

    29 3 2017 18:35

    13       12

    This story smells like more of the I hate Putin propaganda, pushed by the neocons to justify the existence of NATO. If Browder wants to do some good about cleaning up corruption and cover ups, along with his wonderful friend John McCain (who should be in jail himself for corruption charges - does anyone remember the Keating Five - McCain was considered the most reprehensible of the group) he should start here in the USA. Why not get our justice department to charge Goldman Sachs and some of the other big banks with fraud, money laundering, market rigging, and the theft of trillions in the form of government bail outs .

  • DS

    David S.

    29 3 2017 18:19

    6       4

    Does anyone doubt that this could have happened?

  • DT

    Douglas T.

    29 3 2017 18:17

    17       4

    Glad you broadcast this fascinating interview. However, the controversy surrounding these events is pretty extreme. You should find a way to present an alternative narrative.
    Russiaphobia is powerful force in western politics at the moment, threatening the stability of all markets world-wide.
    RV viewers would benefit from the truth on this story which spawned legilsation that is either really bad or really good, depending on what and who you believe.
    And are we really expected to believe Browder's claim that he dropped a lucrative hedge fund business to bring a bunch of corrupt Russian cops down for negotiating a tax refund? Taxes are a matter of legal wrangling and are morally ambiguous than absolute. What gives here?

  • JB

    Jack B.

    29 3 2017 18:04

    16       7

    Grant's question, "Why didn't they kill you?" is key. The Russians didn't kill Mr. Browder because he is an operative of Western intelligence. Mr. Browder's interview is a continuing PSYOP against Russian sovereignity on behalf of the deep state which needs an enemy to justify its existence and deep budget.
    Now, the reason I studied this man and his history is the appropriation of the brand "Hermitage" which is the name of one of the greatest museums in the world in St. Petersberg, Russia is personally offensive to me. It is indicative of greed and disrespect for the great collection of art which has enriched my life. I recommend the Hermitage having spent many happy weeks viewing the collections of the best expressions of humanity. I applaud the commenters who call out this dispicatble man, who has done more than any human being to increase the risk of nuclear war between the United States and Russia..

  • GM

    Greg M.

    29 3 2017 17:54

    9       0

    I think instead of arguing over whether Mr. Browder is a CIA agent or Russia is the worst place in the world, there is a much larger theme at work here. This interview shows why government should be limited and the need for a rule of law. Russia is a place where anything goes. I think it is certainly possible he is a CIA frontman - Look up Nicohlas Deak. Mr. Deak was shot not too far from my office in Downtown Manhattan.

  • WS

    William S.

    29 3 2017 17:27

    15       13

    I have now several hours over the course of the past two days doing a "deep dive" on Browder, Hermitage, Magintsky et al. The web of this story traces an extraordinarily deep, winding, and shadowy series of rabbit holes. To say that there is much more to Browder's story than meets the eye in this interview would be a gross understatement. In any case, what I have discovered so far has convinced me that the image of William Browder fostered by this interview is unquestionably false. Indeed, the evidence I have uncovered conducts one inexorably to the conclusion that Browder has been, from early on -- and continues to be -- an operative of the western intelligence/security apparatus. I consider it extremely unfortunate that RealVision TV has naively permitted itself to become entangled in what is almost certainly a propaganda gambit hatched in the spook swamps of the western Deep State.

  • MV

    Matt V.

    29 3 2017 16:17

    2       13

    The negative reviews are from Marin Katusa. He's got a man crush on Putin.

  • RE

    Rachel E.

    29 3 2017 16:05

    5       2

    Fool me once, shame on you
    Fool me twice, shame on us.

    George W., Dick Chiney & Rumsfeld did it to us many many times.

    We will not send our boys to die for Russia!!!!

    Their sons didn't die !!!!!!!

  • RN

    Robert N.

    29 3 2017 15:37

    13       2

    Well, I was totally convinced by this on first viewing and felt quite hostile to the negative reviews. I noticed that some links to more aspects of the story had been given in a few comments and spent the rest of the day following those deeper and deeper. There is obviously much more to this than appears in the interview with players ranging from Maxwell to Seymour Hersch and dissident Russian filmmakers. https://www.thenation.com/article/by-screening-the-magnitsky-act-the-newseum-stood-up-for-the-first-amendment/ From the write-up on the legendary Hersch event we get: "Browder was able to stop a screening of the film for a group of European MPs in Brussels. His attorneys also successfully shut down a screening in Norway and Arte, a German-French television network, also canceled plans to run the film. Upon seeing the film, one can easily understand why Browder and his attorneys would go to such lengths."

    I wonder how much will come out.

  • RK

    Raitis K.

    29 3 2017 15:02

    7       4

    Grant, Raoul, you need to release this to the public domain! I'm from Latvia, grew up in the post communism era, and can tell that similar things, to a lesser degree though, also happened in Latvia. Capitalism ftw

  • RE

    Rachel E.

    29 3 2017 14:52

    12       4

    How soon we forget,
    Remember George W., how he manipulated us to go to WAR.
    This is how they start. Don't trust anyone, do your own research.....
    But don't get fooled by emotional speeches.
    Love America & No WAR.

  • NR

    Nuno R.

    29 3 2017 14:22

    9       5

    If all this is true, and have no reason to believe it isn't, this gentleman has the biggest "balls" in the finance industry...

  • CH

    Chuck H.

    29 3 2017 14:07

    8       0

    Browder would have us believe all his actions in Russia were beyond reproach.

  • NR

    Nuno R.

    29 3 2017 13:09

    7       2

    wow... wow...wow! Brilliant interview, thank you RVT.

  • SP

    Sat P.

    29 3 2017 11:32

    15       3

    Fascinating story. After reading so many stories on the tensions between Russia and the US (and not knowing what to believe) this is another piece in the puzzle. I would argue that Britain and the US steal so much money from their citizens too in order to fund war and destruction overseas. The number of people murdered overseas by these two countries is also very high, just not necessarily done by one person.

  • DS

    David S.

    29 3 2017 11:32

    7       12

    I am surprised that some viewers could dismiss the validity of this interview out of hand. With only a cursory knowledge of Russian history and literature coupled with Putin’s actions and human behavior, I find the narrative compelling. For you skeptics, if it did not happen, it certainly could have happened. DLS

  • DS

    David S.

    29 3 2017 11:32

    11       8

    I am surprised that some viewers could dismiss the validity of this interview out of hand. With only a cursory knowledge of Russian history and literature coupled with Putin’s actions and human behavior, I find the narrative compelling. For you skeptics, if it did not happen, it certainly could have happened. DLS

  • rc

    random c.

    29 3 2017 09:13

    11       2

    Why is it that, otherwise perfectly sensible people, are prepared to believe the worst kind of self-interest scoundrel?

  • AG

    Alex G.

    29 3 2017 06:04

    16       16

    Great interview!

    The people that gave negative comments I assume hangout in the dark corners of Zerohedge and Youtube too much

  • SD

    Stephen D.

    29 3 2017 04:25

    18       2

    A remarkable, landmark interview. As several people have suggested 'Red Notice'
    by Bill Browder is an excellent read. To the sceptics I would only say that having done business in Russia for 23 years nothing Bill describes is in any way fanciful. And to those who say it's not in RV's 'space' I'd say anyone who is ever considering doing business in Russia to take this interview very seriously indeed.

  • DC

    Dave C.

    29 3 2017 03:22

    12       0

    Interesting talk that gives even more of a glimpse behind some of the forces that are probably driving the current Russophobic campaign. Hat tips to the previous commenters that gave links to other elements of this story - all recommended.

    The link to the Martin Armstrong piece is fascinating. That in turn has a link to the story of the death of the seed investor of Heritage - Mr Safra - this is an essential read in my view
    http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2000/12/dunne200012

    All in all, the elements in this tale feel like they could have easily come from the pen of John Le Carre. Oh, and great questioning Grant.

  • PB

    P B.

    29 3 2017 02:54

    11       3

    RVTV reaching new highs. Thank you for incredible content.

  • JH

    Joel H.

    29 3 2017 02:43

    4       1

    Wow, what a story.

  • HJ

    Harry J.

    29 3 2017 01:33

    4       1

    One hell of a story!

  • RE

    Rachel E.

    29 3 2017 00:52

    13       9

    Necons want war with Russia, but there is no public support.

    This is how they get our boys killed, while they make billions from war.

    Jack Mc Cain loves War.

  • RE

    Rachel E.

    29 3 2017 00:35

    10       34

    Real Vision is a business & investment media. Never mix politics & business.
    It is obvious this guest has political motives.

  • MP

    Mark P.

    28 3 2017 22:30

    18       6

    Real Vision needs to release this interview to a wider audience. People should hear this story.

  • JB

    Jack B.

    28 3 2017 22:24

    11       12

    Fake news.....!

    The Untouchable Mr. Browder....Israel Shamir
    http://www.unz.com/ishamir/the-good-fortune-of-mr-browder/

  • BK

    Bruce K.

    28 3 2017 21:34

    23       6

    Entirely by coincidence, I finished reading "Red Notice" two weeks ago. Though the interview is a summary of the book, I found it quite insightful to literally see & hear Bill re-tell his story. Full disclosure: after the first half of the book--covering the ups & downs & ups of Hermitage Capital--my opinion was neutral. "It was a high-risk/high-reward decision to move to Russia, so I am not surprised that the risks came due," or something along those lines. The second half of the book--covering the corrupt, criminal, and ultimately murderous takedown--changed my view to being incredibly impressed by Bill Browder. For the past eight years, Bill's ACTIONS impress. Full stop. If you're one of the people that thinks "There is more going on here than he says," by all means do your homework. Bill Browder is the real deal.

  • JM

    Justin M.

    28 3 2017 21:33

    12       6

    Amazing story. This is the kind of guy that makes for a great friend. A man of character and integrity like this is rare.

  • EK

    Emil K.

    28 3 2017 21:26

    25       5

    I see that we have one thumbs down vote so far. I think it is pretty cool that President Putin watches Real Vision.

  • WS

    William S.

    28 3 2017 21:19

    19       18

    So ... I decided to do a little *google-sleuthing* regarding the protagonist of this epic tale. What I was able to uncover in a relatively short period of time has served to further confirm my otherwise instinctive reaction to Browder's too-well-rehearsed account of his experiences in Russia. Little did I expect to discover that William Browder is actually one of the central figures in what, in my estimation, is a transparent CIA-concocted COINTELPRO. Now, granted, it is utterly impossible, in cases such as this, to easily discern truth from falsehood -- and I do not pretend to be able to do so. That said, everyone who has viewed this RV interview today ought to at least take into consideration "the other side of the story" as presented in this half-hour-long documentary produced by Rossiya 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOx78CBq0Ck . Notwithstanding the fact that Rossiya 1 is affiliated with the Russian government, this brief production presents evidence that I consider to be much more persuasive than Browder's self-promoting agitprop.

  • BB

    Brian B.

    28 3 2017 21:12

    5       0

    For the record, here is Martin Armstrong's account of the events:

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/so-who-really-tried-to-blackmail-yeltsin-takeover-russia-nsa-cia-or-investment-bankers/

  • db

    don b.

    28 3 2017 21:07

    7       0

    Sounds like the gold & silver markets in America.

  • WS

    William S.

    28 3 2017 20:39

    8       21

    "... nothing in his story seems too far fetched or impossible." Right. Like, for example, some shady guys successfully extracting a $230MM "tax refund". Or the elaborate details surrounding the torture of the attorney, and the lame-ass *deus ex machina* explanation Browder is all prepared to advance in anticipation of any doubts. Sorry folks, but the more I have thought about it, the less inclined I am to believe this guy and his "everything-the-neocons-tell-us-about-Putin-is-true" tale.

  • RB

    Rob B.

    28 3 2017 20:18

    7       5

    Great interview and needs to be shared out beyond RV viewers. Being familiar with Russia, nothing in his story seems too far fetched or impossible. It does reconfirm for me that Putin will never leave the highest position in Russia while alive....too much to loose. Remember when Putin was "negotiating with Yeltsin" to take over? The biggest ask that Yeltsin had was to not be killed by Putin. Put that negotiation all in perspective Great work!

  • IO

    Igor O.

    28 3 2017 19:59

    6       2

    Same Safra who channeled pallets of cash to russian mob back and forth trough his bank? Then "suddenly died"... Something tells me there is more to the story.

  • DD

    Daniel D.

    28 3 2017 19:13

    5       3

    Truly an extraordinary story. I knew parts of the history but to hear them as told by Bill was riveting. Bill is incredibly brave and inspirational. Grant did an excellent job as usual and asked the questions I was curious to hear the answers to.

  • SS

    Stephen S.

    28 3 2017 18:48

    8       3

    Wow. My new favorite interview on real vision. That was awesome.

  • DB

    David B.

    28 3 2017 17:28

    6       5

    Read his book Red Notice for more details. You will view Putin for what he is, a gangster not a political leader.

  • DM

    Dom M.

    28 3 2017 17:23

    3       3

    Live by the sword,die by the sword.(he's a man with integrity and luck(unfortunately not for Mr.Magnitsky)

  • KT

    Ken T.

    28 3 2017 16:20

    12       5

    This interview needs to be shared with everyone and I mean everyone everywhere. The story is utterly amazing and a most profound and telling interview - 60 Minutes should make note. Thank-you Bill for sharing and thank-you for risking everything to bring justice to those who have harmed you.

  • WS

    William S.

    28 3 2017 16:13

    22       33

    I'm certain my impression of this interview will evoke a universal chorus of "thumbs down" votes, and perhaps even some vocal "righteous indignation" on the part of my fellow RV viewers. All I know is that my *bullshit sensor* was red-lining virtually from the moment Browder began to speak. And while I have no empirical reasons to doubt him and the stories he shared, the simple fact is that my instinctive reaction was one of dubiousness; I simply do not consider Browder to be credible; I sense there is much more to the story than we are being told, and I perceive several logical inconsistencies in his well-rehearsed account.

  • BT

    Ben T.

    28 3 2017 14:41

    11       1

    "Why do you think nobody tried to kill you?" - Perhaps the best question ever asked on RV. In all seriousness, absolutely, fantastic story and interview.

  • IJ

    Ian J.

    28 3 2017 14:39

    6       1

    so many profound lessons in this interview

  • AC

    Anthony C.

    28 3 2017 14:30

    10       4

    This video must be translated and made available to the Russian people, who, should mind that they are being ripped off $200-$300B. I only hope HSBC is not providing thei laundering service...

  • MS

    Martin S.

    28 3 2017 14:24

    14       1

    Incredible .. I live in Bulgaria. The playbook here was the same.

  • LS

    Leigh S.

    28 3 2017 14:24

    6       5

    Great work Grant, as you say its like a spy novel. Makes me wonder more about the Trump position.

  • DH

    Damian H.

    28 3 2017 13:50

    6       3

    An absolutely astonishing film.

  • DS

    David S.

    28 3 2017 13:35

    11       4

    Fantastic interview. Financial history and perspective on Russia, but I was in tears listening to the horror of the murder of his attorney. As mentioned in another RV interview, Putin cannot retire to Corsica. He must maintain and increase power. Maybe part of this interview would make a great YouTube video for all to see, especially the White House. Thank you. DLS

  • FG

    FundamentalAnalysis G.

    28 3 2017 12:38

    29       4

    This is probably one of the best interviews real vision has put out to date. It gives one an insight from an unbiased perspective into how Russia operates at a higher level and why its perceived risk is actually justified.

    What baffles me, and maybe an expert on human psychology has an answer along with the nature versus nurture argument is what drives people towards such greed? and in particular when you already have plenty? (I'm referring to the oligarchs or putin here).

    Is it human nature to want power, which in turn drives the ego and makes one feel good.... Is it that some humans are less evolved and thus closer to the traits exhibited in the animal kingdom. i.e crushing others for your own gain (ref: animals eating animals) and even more interestingly are these people still in transition from the animal kingdom to the human mentally? RV is not a place to open up a debate in regards to evolution, reincarnation etc....but it does pose questions about the way humanity functions.

    I guess I just cannot get my head around the fact that some people don't have limits.

  • js

    jacob s.

    28 3 2017 12:30

    24       6

    As an American that voted for Trump and thought that America should just leave Russia alone, you changed my mind. I had no idea it was that f__ked up.

  • EJ

    Edward J.

    28 3 2017 12:12

    14       6

    Well done RV for inviting Bill Browder to tell his incredible story - hopefully this will help the roll out of the Magnitsky Law.

  • MV

    Mark V.

    28 3 2017 11:36

    14       4

    Great interview Grant. I recently read "Red Notice" the book by Mr Browder and can highly recommend it. it makes me look at current political discussions on Russia in a different light.

  • jS

    jurgen S.

    28 3 2017 11:31

    18       3

    Fascinating!! I hope he lives a long life also. What an absolute legend.
    Thanks RV clearly the best life story so far.
    I'm still shaking my head in amazement at the twists and turns in this great life story.Bravo!