China vs. the U.S. – Trade War to Cold War?

Published on
October 11th, 2019
Duration
60 minutes

China vs. the U.S. – Trade War to Cold War?

The Kyle Bass Interviews ·
Featuring Gen. Robert Spalding

Published on: October 11th, 2019 • Duration: 60 minutes

Is globalization breaking down before our eyes? Kyle Bass sits down with retired Brigadier General Robert Spalding to discuss what’s really happening inside China. Spalding spent years living in China as Defense Attache in Bejing and served as the chief China strategist for the chairman of the Joint Chiefs. Spalding brings his deep knowledge of the people, culture, economy, and military posture of China to the table in discussing the multifaceted threat to the US posed by the rising Asian superpower. Filmed on September 27, 2019 in Washington D.C.

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  • jm
    jim m.
    14 October 2019 @ 14:26
    Bass: Your passion and knowledge about China is self evident. The interviewee was terrific.China absolutely has its eyes set on world dominance. We can help ourselves and mitigate the threat by getting smart here at home. In my view, we are accelerating our own demise given our present inability to maintain a Separation of Countervailing Powers, and present, large vulnerability to a Trump second term. at which point Trump becomes a dictator. Our democracy can work were we to take the money out of politics and create the right incentive structures for those in Congress. Campaign Finance Reform and term limits are essential. Further, we have to address our country's vulnerability to cyber attack. This should be a national priority and should shore up our power grid, national financial infrastructure, and election safety. Thanks for a great interview.
  • JB
    Jon B.
    14 October 2019 @ 12:36
    The style of the interview discredits the content. I'm used to RV have an interviewer challenge the assertions and it's up to the guest to validate them. This comes out as Bass making the assertion with Spalding scrabbling around to find the validations. Where's the charts? The evidence? Whilst everything sounds plausible, if extremely distressing and shocking, we need to have them factually backed up. Not just hearsay or rely on short stories from a book
  • PK
    Paul K.
    14 October 2019 @ 11:59
    George Carlin "My first rule: I don't believe anything the government tells me." This is utter BS. You have two neocons together and expect an objective interview? This interview is utter BS and talking points of the MIC and the pro war hawks. If you believe this crap, you are gullible.
  • AH
    Ahmed H.
    14 October 2019 @ 10:44
    wow! kyle must have lost a tonne on those short RMB trades me thinks
  • wp
    william p.
    14 October 2019 @ 10:35
    Technical Revolution is not just about our lifestyle. It is so pervasive in EVERY aspect of an individuals life. Unfortunately it gives an enormous power to the establishment versus the individual. Personally I do not trust Chinazi simply by looking at what is evident to the eye's of everybody (HongKong!) and the way the CCP is handling that. It tell' s all you need to know. More broadly, today the Technical Revolution taking place is all about the war between the Establishment and the Individual person first. Obviously the stakes are so high that the Establishments of the world will be fighting to get Control on a Global scale. Interesting and at the same time frightening Times. At the end watch out for Dictators, a lot of them out there these days!!
  • DY
    Damian Y.
    14 October 2019 @ 06:19
    Great interview, I always love to hear what Kyle has to say. The more I learn about China the more I realize just how evil the CCP is. Keep up your great work Kyle.
  • DD
    Damian D.
    14 October 2019 @ 05:32
    Hey RealVision.... How about bringing us the other side of this story and show us you are not pushing Kyle agenda.
  • JS
    Jerad S.
    14 October 2019 @ 05:20
    I believe the debate stopped at ..... “forced organ donors.” You all who want to keep going on after that are beyond me.
  • MJ
    Michael J.
    14 October 2019 @ 04:04
    You better believe China trolls are in Real Vision already. I'm from the Philippines and I'm witnessing first hand how China trolls have encroached in all social media discussions that are even the slightest bit critical of China. Watch out for them in RV!
    • AG
      AlA G.
      14 October 2019 @ 05:02
      We are all paid subscribers. No need for trolling. Such binary world view serves no good to your own investment process.
  • MS
    Michael S.
    14 October 2019 @ 03:31
    Clearly, RV is hostage to Kyle Bass. What a joke. How about if I debate Bass? Remember, just like Fox and CNN and whatever, RV has to have content. I'm a fucking nobody in the investment world (which has nothing to do with this video, btw), and I could debate this numbskull general just as well as anyone, if I'd read his book.
    • MS
      Michael S.
      14 October 2019 @ 04:02
      Now I am going to re-watch, for the third time, before I get thrown off of the platform, that Andrew Lapthorne interview again, which I totally loved and I loved Roger and I of course loved Andrew's backing of my TOT and some other thoughts. Look: I love Kyle, since the "Cognitive Dissonance" paper leaked in 2011, and I love RV, gold and a major deval by all countries is really the only way out of this, in spite of all the nonsense by RV contributors, and of course Anthony Deden.
  • EP
    Eddy P.
    14 October 2019 @ 02:56
    Wow! Wow! Wow! I now understand why Kyle is like a dog with a bone on the China issue. Well done!
  • BM
    Beth M.
    14 October 2019 @ 01:23
    My eyes and heart are now wide open! Thank you Kyle and General Spalding for bringing these issues to the forefront.
  • mp
    michael p.
    14 October 2019 @ 00:59
    Simply put, RV needs better interviewers. This is not the first. You need an interviewer who asks tough questions, not questions that lead the interviewee. You can not have a thought provoking finance website have an interviewer who has the same viewpoint of the guest. It’s like an I banker interviewing Globe.com in 1999. Eyeballs are great etc etc. how does that help subscribers. I have interviewed 100’s of CEOs. The value add is not what you already believe but what you learn that you didn’t know. To take this to the next level, you need that. .
  • DC
    Darren C.
    14 October 2019 @ 00:15
    I understand that Kyle is passionate about this topic. It is a little frustrating listening to both the host and guest speaking at the same time and this is one of the 'best' example of this at Real Vision. Please endeavour to have videos where those on camera allow the other person to finish before they speak.
  • SS
    Shanthi S.
    13 October 2019 @ 23:29
    Scary.
  • BF
    Brad F.
    13 October 2019 @ 22:37
    Who are these American billionaires that are CCP puppets?
    • RP
      Raoul P. | Founder
      14 October 2019 @ 03:07
      The Miles Kwok interview gives some names...
  • LY
    Leo Y.
    13 October 2019 @ 21:04
    They are Kyle's revenge for betting against China, we now know how much he lost. LOL
  • DD
    Damian D.
    13 October 2019 @ 17:35
    Hey RV, Kyle has interviewed three people with extremely negative views on China, they may be right or they may be wrong, so how about having Kyle interview three people who disagree with these guest. To finish off the series you can have Kyle interview a panel of three knowledgeable quests to act say as judges to discuss the merits and faults with all the guests allegations. I am suggesting this because Kyle seems somewhat subjective regarding China ( he may be right, maybe not ), I for one, would like to know for sure the validity of the assertions made by his three guests. One of the assertions was that Jack Ma would be assassinated by Chinese officials.
    • XS
      Xin S.
      13 October 2019 @ 22:21
      I think Kyle made mistakes at least in two cases. the one is William Felix Browder; the one is Miles Guo. I think he is overconfident about his judgment. I would like to invite Kyle and Armstrong to debate on the Browder case. I really want to know which one is true. Wengui (Miles) Guo is another example. He has lied and abandoned by most Media but Kyle interviewed him without inviting the other side of the story. At least three journalists are filed in Voice of America because of Miles' lie.
  • SS
    Sam S.
    13 October 2019 @ 15:32
    Anybody on board that the Chinese are watching this video? Watching everything?
    • KW
      K W.
      13 October 2019 @ 16:00
      Yep... I hope RV have a secure website.
  • SS
    Sam S.
    13 October 2019 @ 15:15
    Climate Change discussion is the biggest fraud on the USA and the World. It's become an effort for governments to take over all businesses and effectively turn countries into mass communist operations. Tax and control everything. The true data concludes that human have not caused weather disruptions and the narrative is completely and utterly false. Cycles of weather, Solar Flares, Sun Spots have always existed and always will. Pollution control is very important, but the industrial revolution was and is not the cause of climate change. China promotes climate change in order to influence young minds that buy into an idea that is not supported by facts. Young and dumb. Been there, done that.
  • JA
    Jordan A.
    13 October 2019 @ 14:54
    Holly Shit
  • SS
    Sam S.
    13 October 2019 @ 14:40
    The "One Road" initiative seems really seems to be "One-Way-Only Road". Wow what a interview. I have an extended family that are Chinese, born the USA to parents that fled Taiwan in WWII, and the "saving face" is more critical to them than anything else. This has caused lies, immoral behavior and family disruption not acceptable to most. The hypocritical part is their desire to falsify impressions to the others outside the family. The bad part is these issues are behind closed doors inside the family as discussions or issues which involve no one else. It's doesn't compute other than control, power and they act like they are far superior to all other people. Other than that, their great. PS> one is a surgeon.
  • CM
    Carlos M.
    13 October 2019 @ 14:25
    the level of hypocrisy and arrogance in this interview is unbelievable. Even though I lived in the US love the people at least at the time, I come from a western country, have nothing in common with the chinese and if half of the things the interview enumerates is true it is appaling STILL part of me is rooting for the chinese as I do believe a lot of the western world too. Americans arrogance in particular since Trump got elected needs to be checked. Kyle bass went from being someone I look forward to hearing his thoughts to someone I blocked in tweeter, fed up of his propaganda and arrogance.
    • KW
      K W.
      13 October 2019 @ 15:51
      I often find people rooting for certain countries simply because they hate the arrogance of Americans. You can hate Trump or whatever you do not like about America. But that does not mean you have to love the Chinese. Things are not mutually exclusive. I do not find this video to be a propaganda or being arrogant.
    • KW
      K W.
      13 October 2019 @ 15:52
      But then again if you love China for what it is on the world stage then good for you. At least we know what kind of values you stand for.
    • CM
      Carlos M.
      13 October 2019 @ 21:28
      KW this detention centers were they put kids of illegal inmigrants isnt it a concentration camp of sorts? guantanamo , the list goes on an on and u preach me of my values ? you just made my point for me.
    • BM
      Beth M.
      14 October 2019 @ 01:30
      Sir, you are lost in space. America gives billions of dollars to nations all over the world. You've been watching to much main stream media.
  • KS
    Kathleen S.
    13 October 2019 @ 13:25
    It is easy to see that the CCP trolls are hard at work trying to discredit Kyle Bass (lol - complaint is he interrupts too much) or they are trying to change the subject by bringing up CIA. Amazing how many of them are out there -- you see same garbage on twitter -- they fool nobody. CCP is a murderous disgusting regime that is filled with the same families that advised Mao --- These families murdered 60 Million of their own and today have millions in concentration camps where their organs are sold to the highest bidder. They have no morals and will do ANYTHING for money - truly disturbing. The World needs to BOYCOTT CHINA --- and STAND WITH HONG KONG and FREEDOM.
    • NA
      N A.
      14 October 2019 @ 06:15
      Ouch didn't you just out yourself as a HK troll there? I just need to mention that KB made some serious factual errors in this "interview", most amazing was when he said Hong Konger's democracy was being taken from them by China. I was on the floor laughing. Forgot about all the democracy they had under the Brits. I have nothing against KB, but please RV bring some balance to this argument. Otherwise please do a "USA Watch" week with only Chinese guests.
  • UJ
    Ulf J.
    13 October 2019 @ 07:18
    Great interview, but do you release that what you are talking about is also the USA? China is picking up on what the USA has done since WWII. Controlling the narrative heard about CIA and mockingbird and just recently a Spanish surveillance company that had security cameras at Ecuador Embassy was giving all data to CIA to spy on people who met with Assange and his lawyers this is criminal behavior and against the law. They have tapes when Pamela Anderson is using the restroom in the Embassy. FBI spying on John Lennon is that freedom of speech, What about CIA smuggling drugs to the USA or CIA trying to take out an Elected President Trump. The USA protecting Chinese who beat up protesters on the US soil, what about USS Liberty when Israel killing soldiers of the USA the relatives to the killed sailors was forbidden to talk to the press. Israel and Palestina it is a concentration camp are also controlling the narrative. Epstein pedophilia case involving a former President they control the narrative it is buried. Patriot act is the law taking away yours right ask Susan Lindauer former CIA asset. Kyle should read the book confession of an economic hitman by John Perkins. The World is losing trust and is tired of the USA not showing respect to other countries. It is not only in Hong Kong there is protesting but the media is controlling the narrative there is still Yellow west protesting in France. What about the USA involvement in Hong Kong demonstrations it was starting as a genuine protesting but was it hijacked? The USA is losing trust that's why Russia was forced to move towards China this was a grand mistake and Europe lost a lot from it.
    • KS
      Kathleen S.
      13 October 2019 @ 13:13
      This is about CHINA and CCP ----
    • JS
      John S.
      13 October 2019 @ 16:41
      Indeed...one topic at a time please. America's many wrongs in no way alter the reality which is the CCP. A stark difference is that we can speak openly about ours. People who are "tired" of American may say what they please based on whatever they believe to be true. Speaking for myself, I'm tired of people bitching and moaning about how evil we are but grateful that these terminally unhappy people can say whatever they please without becoming non persons or having organs ripped out and sold at a nice profit.
    • bm
      brian m.
      13 October 2019 @ 18:39
      The only thing you can compare the US to, is other hegemonic powers. Which other hegemonic power has allowed the likes of Germany, Japan and South Korea to flourish after being defeated? The treaty of Brest litovsk doesnt compare favourably.
    • BM
      Beth M.
      14 October 2019 @ 01:21
      Hey pal, we don't people in prison camps for their religion. Get a clue! Your just a communist troll.
  • AG
    AlA G.
    13 October 2019 @ 02:52
    I hope RV can have a chance to interview the Singaporean Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, who is a true statesman and can provide an objective and balanced view over the US-China topic.
    • CH
      Chris H.
      13 October 2019 @ 03:16
      Do you really think that Hsien Loong could speak freely about China even after he has stopped being prime minister?
    • AG
      AlA G.
      13 October 2019 @ 04:05
      Yes I do. But if your definition of speaking freely is just lashing out, sure, only Kyle Bass is the most qualified person to talk about this.
    • bm
      brian m.
      13 October 2019 @ 18:41
      Great Idea, He is a bit like his Dad....and his dad was beyond compare
  • CR
    Charlie R.
    13 October 2019 @ 02:33
    Great discussion! Such an important secular frame! RV should promote it outside the paywall!
  • yd
    yon d.
    13 October 2019 @ 02:08
    Awesome interview. And.....through 'protecting your data', how will the US not, in the end, become the very thing that they wish to not become? "Controlling your data to protect you", sounds so ironic. Great interview!! Leaves so many more questions to consider.
  • BM
    Balraj M.
    13 October 2019 @ 01:26
    Mr. Bass please stop interrupting your guest, we know you know a lot about China but the constant interruptions came off across as rude.
  • CH
    Chris H.
    13 October 2019 @ 01:24
    Can we get a Brad Garlinghouse from Ripple interview FFS.
  • MP
    Michael P.
    12 October 2019 @ 23:35
    Wow. What a great ending.. ' we are able to be influenced to such a degree that we can think our neighbor is our enemy.' I dont want to sound too conspiratorial but I can 100% see the truth in that. Think of the wars that have ostensibly been started due to the media and what we believe as a society to be 'true'.
  • CK
    Colin K.
    12 October 2019 @ 21:37
    I find it incredible how many people are willing to accept a pro China narrative and overlook these disgusting practices in the face of well documented views. At some point people need to start making up their minds about weather dealing with the morally devoid enterprising system of the CCP is acceptable or not.
  • WC
    William C.
    12 October 2019 @ 20:08
    I watch every video with Kyle in it. please keep them coming.
  • DS
    Dan S.
    12 October 2019 @ 19:26
    Kissinger is an idiot. Phase out trade in stages.
  • RT
    Rex T.
    12 October 2019 @ 19:12
    I don’t know why RV so worried about making sure all the positive comments about the interviewer get the most likes... it’s not like he cares what we think or reads our comments in detail :)
  • CQ
    Colin Q.
    12 October 2019 @ 18:50
    Man, some unsubstantiated bullshit going on in this. Also words like “evil” being used. It’s subjective crap. This guy is promoting his book. Could have saved us all some time and taken an paid ad from him. RV is really beginning to miss the mark.
    • SS
      Sohail S.
      12 October 2019 @ 22:33
      If organ harvesting is occurring by harvesting the organs of "dissident" thinkers, and this is occurring with the approval and knowledge of the CCP, then why would evil be the wrong description?
  • JF
    John F.
    12 October 2019 @ 17:33
    Space X's network is the perfect platform to combat the 5G threat. Especially if they innovate past the 5G level.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 19:15
      Hopefully it’s not the same network Lightsquared used before (NOAA) shut them down.
  • MH
    Michael H.
    12 October 2019 @ 17:32
    Simply amazing! It's up to us to propagate this message and get people knowing these dangers. Great Stuff!
  • RT
    Rex T.
    12 October 2019 @ 14:21
    Thank god the Chinese restrict foreign access to their market! They saved western investors a widow maker short JGB trade 2.0.
  • PJ
    Peter J.
    12 October 2019 @ 13:54
    Kyle has a fantastic intellect and I really enjoyed his early RVTV interviews. However, the more recent ones on China (and the CCP specifically) where he has participated as interviewer have IMO moved toward being overtly politicised, with the intent of demonising the CCP rather than evaluating the economic / financial problems arising from the political and economic relations between China and the ROW (but more specifically the US). I am no fan of the CCP but there are many other significant states with human rights issues, where both these and China’s failings on race and IPR theft have been well covered previously. Would love to see Kyle back on RVTV where the discussion didn’t have China or the CCP mentioned at all.
    • PJ
      Peter J.
      12 October 2019 @ 13:55
      Race = Trade
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 14:25
      So it’s a trade to the bottom not a race to the bottom? Makes sense.
    • CC
      Choz C.
      12 October 2019 @ 16:32
      100% agreed. Sad to see him destroy his credibility.
    • TE
      Tito E.
      12 October 2019 @ 16:56
      China's top down system is awful, many suffer, will likely fall apart and all very messy. Kinda obvious to anyone with any sense though. I'm apolitical, but this just sounds like propaganda to me. People should generally stick to their areas of expertise.
  • EN
    Eric N.
    12 October 2019 @ 12:53
    So the US are the unchallenged "number one" for decades, tolerant with a great majority of countries, sometimes a little over the top (see Yugoslavia, Iraq or Lybia amongst many, many others) to make a point or to set an example. One day they realize they aren't number one any more, and the one topping them off the podium is of course as evil as the nazis - as stated in this interview. The US president changes the narrative, and suddenly there is something literally looking like the nazi holocaust? This seems like an incredibly convenient narrative. There is no doubt in my mind that any government is at its core rotten, to suggest that the US have a moral compass however, is fantastic hypocrisy and hubris. There is something about China which I prefer over the US, and that is that they aren't truly global, they don't care as much about changing other countries' system for an idea of how the everyone else is supposed to look like. They don't export their idealism as much, rather they want it realized internally. With China at the top, I expect less dumb mistakes a country as young as the US was prone to make. And I expect the Chinese population to resist once the government shows its face, as they have countless times in the past. I honestly can't wait for the US to leave the stage, and if it's just for the unquantifiable hypocrisy emanating from that part of the world to disappear.
    • EK
      Edward K.
      12 October 2019 @ 16:15
      The narrative of "American Exceptionalism" has been pernicious. Tulsi is right - stop regime change and needless military-industrial intervention in our political economy. Conversely China is a tumor subsidized by American greed, naivete, and hubris. This is a monster of our design and now we reap the "dragon's teeth".
    • DB
      Darko B.
      13 October 2019 @ 01:55
      The US dropped depleted uranium bombs in Serbia and Iraq for civilians and children to deal with. The US isn't what it was 40-50 years ago. It's lost what tiny moral compass it had long ago and has been replaced by Marxist / corporate sycophant corrupt elite. Is China a threat....no doubt, but I'm not sure it's any better the what we've got. At the end of the day it's all going to end that same way. The average man on the street will need to fight and die for his freedom.
    • DB
      Darko B.
      13 October 2019 @ 01:57
      *worse than what we've got
    • PW
      Paul W.
      14 October 2019 @ 02:38
      Having first-hand experience with Chinese incursions into Africa, I am not sure I can agree that "they aren't truly global", at least in intent. For the time being, their power is constrained by the reality that the yuan is not a global reserve currency but I don't accept for a moment that they don't have global ambitions. I think they have just chosen different mechanisms - you don't need to export idealism when you can export carfentyl instead.
  • RK
    Richard K.
    12 October 2019 @ 12:36
    Shekels Kyle? Not dollars. Not money. Shekels. Hmmm .
    • SS
      Shanthi S.
      13 October 2019 @ 23:25
      Glad someone pulled him up on this.
  • RS
    Robert S.
    12 October 2019 @ 12:36
    way too many interruptions of your guest. I've heard KB's pov on the subject many times and was interested to hear his guest, but all the interruptions were irritating.
    • yd
      yon d.
      13 October 2019 @ 02:16
      Hummmmm...interesting, but I didn't notice any interruptions. Will watch again for that.
  • SU
    Shakeel U.
    12 October 2019 @ 12:25
    Kyle Bass comes on Real Vision every time he can find someone to talk negative about China.
  • SU
    Shakeel U.
    12 October 2019 @ 12:21
    There's a fault with the thumbs up and thumbs down, if you click on one the other thumb automatically goes up. I'm not sure if this is a technology bug or part of Kyle Bass anti Chinese proganda movement.
  • PR
    Paweł R.
    12 October 2019 @ 10:49
    Kyle kept interrupting Gen Spalding way too often. The end result is I'm not sure to what extent I have heard Gen Spalding's opinions or Kyle's opinions in a conversation with Gen Spalding.
  • JM
    Jason M.
    12 October 2019 @ 09:31
    Great interview. Some of these comments, are PLA. Control narrative at all costs.
  • AW
    Abigail W.
    12 October 2019 @ 08:51
    Kyle Bass is known for his trade and agenda on China. Putting him in the important role as interviewer make me seriously reassess the neutrality and intention of this channel. There are enough bananas out there, I am seeking the facts and views of experts here. PS. Really nice to see from the comments that many RV watchers are able to question what has been communicated.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 13:52
      Hopefully he’s not had that trade on for too long. Unlike long risk positions shorts get bigger as they keep going against you :)
  • RT
    Rex T.
    12 October 2019 @ 06:12
    But final point honestly.... If I had as much money ask Kyle I’d also rock up to the interview unprepared. A career journalist would get fired if they interviewed like this a couple times. I can imagine if that happened to Kyle he’d pull a Tony Montana scene on RV and buy them out.
  • LL
    Lo L.
    12 October 2019 @ 06:05
    Republican propaganda tv? Stick to experts not politicians
  • JK
    James K.
    12 October 2019 @ 05:43
    Sadly had to stop watching about halfway through the interview because Kyle would not stop interrupting and talking over the guest. The format of having a guest interview a guest IMO is not the greatest; the qualities of a good host are not common among most people. The ability to ask questions, and then sit for possibly 10 minutes without interjecting, blurting stuff out, occasionally clarifying things that aren't clear etc. It's obvious that somebody knows how to host well because when the host (very infrequently) interrupts, it's to clarify something that you immediately thought "what does xyz mean". Information was good, just too hard for me to continue to watch... . .
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 14:01
      Boom! I’m just annoyed I said the same thing an my net score is -2 and yours is +2. It’s sooooo unfair.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 14:02
      Ok... I should remove my thumbs up on your comment to make it closer :)
    • yd
      yon d.
      13 October 2019 @ 02:22
      I appreciate your comment; but I didn't really notice the interruptions. I'll watch again and keep your comments in mind. RealVision must be commended for keeping such a fair and open comment feature. Love the comments and feedback!
  • RT
    Rex T.
    12 October 2019 @ 04:39
    This interview began promisingly and progressively got worse like the discussion does with my mates down the pub with each round. The interviewer made this video twice longer than needed with his input. The interviewer: 1) Seems to suggest this is the only book ever written on China. It gives the impression he flicked through it just before the interview or didn’t understand it. Nothing made me want to buy this book. 2) Please put your ego aside for 30 mins and let the guest speak without speaking over him. Imagine if an Army General started to give you their views on fund management at your host. 3) It’s not Chinese censorship of the USA power the Gen is alluding to early in then interview. The Chinese simply adopted the (same) 40 year US diplomacy etiquette taught to the General as a diplomat which seem to work well... I wouldn’t be the first time China copies the US and (hopefully for Americans) not the last. Rest assured, your interview style is at low risk of plagiarism. 4) The Chinese aren’t shipping tonnes of fentanyl via Alibaba express. It goes via Mexico through the same cartel networks that have trafficked crack, cocaine, heroin and marijuana over the past 30 years. This isn’t my opinion but the DEA’s. Half the US states have legalised weed and taxing it... so the cartels changed the product to the latest high illegal margin addictive substance. Fentanyl is similar to what US doctors prescribe like candy and perhaps even cheaper. To China this is the equivalent of blaming a gun manufacturer for gun deaths in Texas. You started it by sending them Coca Cola and McDonald. 5) When the interviewee uses a lot of technical jargon your job as interviewer is to ask him to clarify definitions for the benefit of viewers. The audience is supposed to be smart, they don’t need to be told what a short story means (it has a beginning and end). Fentanyl, however, isn’t as obvious. 6) Censorship is alive well on the US tech platforms as well... upload this video to YouTube and in a couple days google are likely to call you up to request you remove the word “trump” in the expression “at some point in time money won’t trump...” because it’s classed as political genre content and the word Trump was used. If you refuse the video gets a low relevance ranking (without you knowing) and may even get removed. Just cause someone used a verb that coincides with the US Presidents surname on an unrelated topic. This is from first hand experience! 7) Non-techy middle aged men talking about tech is like teenage kids hearing their parents talk about sex. Like you just ruined my life... I hate you both. The mainstream media has covered this topic extensive its real experts... no value added. 8) From how the 5G network is described every mobile phone company in the world is a short... “the phone is going away!” Someone at RV should have cut this part out. My impression is neither know what exactly 5G is, which shouldn’t shock anyone... it’s not available yet to consumers On a more positive note, it appears the trade talks went well today! Americans can continue to buy their China manufactured TVs without paying higher tariffs. And the even better news is American personnel stationed in China won’t miss his seasons NBA and be forced to leave home. It’s a shame UberEats seized operating in China... Now all the other expats are also going to find out fortune cookies aren’t really Chinese when the local rival operators don’t include them with their meals.
    • JM
      John M.
      12 October 2019 @ 16:45
      Re point #4 Are you comparing Fentanyl with Weed?? How many people are dying from use of Marijuana? Please be serious.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      13 October 2019 @ 01:56
      No I’m not comparing the two. Weed is weed :) But you need to think of the traffickers as a large business enterprise that had almost a monopoly in distribution of illegal marijuana into the US which went away as the US started to produce and tax it’s own marijuana. Who is going to call a shady dealer for weed in California when you get an high quality Apple store experience at the shop? Like any large enterprise the cartels need revenues to stay in business and for that they need to find another illegal and highly profitable substance to hook their customer. It’s not so much the pot heads become crack heads (or whatever fentanyl addicts are ref to) but availability of a new high. Since the US has a high case of opioid addition from over prescription (sorry but Americans just love their quick pill solutions) they pick the weak spot... selling methamphetamines and fentanyl to the opioid addicts. In 10 years it will be some other highly addictive high margin illegal substance.... supply creates its own demand. Clarification: Mexican cartelA does not equated all MexicanS are drug dealers as the US President likes to imply.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      13 October 2019 @ 02:06
      As to how many people die from smoking MJ? The honest answer is I don’t know. I don’t think it’s hardly any except those who were unlucky with the vapes recently. But nobody dies from smoking a ciggy either... they die from the health diseases caused by prolonged smoking. I’m sure in 20 years time we’ll have a better understanding of the consequence. If the organised drug cartels didn’t exist to begin with it would make things far simpler. I’ve personally never smoked or seen the point, but I love a good joint myself now and then. :)
    • PW
      Paul W.
      14 October 2019 @ 02:46
      Several of your points don't appear to be fact-based. Two in particular - while some fetanyl does indeed arrive by traditional smuggling routes, an astounding amount is delivered via the US Postal Service but in any event, it is the much more potent carfenanyl that represents a real threat and it is almost exclusively manufactured in China at this point. Second, your point about 5G is off - the mobile phone networks don't particularly care about the delivery device - they will own the 5G network and make their major money on the transport of data plus they won't be subsidizing the purchase of thousand-dollar handsets. I think that the general had the right sense of where 5G is going - it is going to be a device-agnostic platform. Not in the short term, but over time.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      14 October 2019 @ 14:03
      Paul, you make great points. I was aware of the US postal delivery but according to DEA it’s cartel networks. If that’s report is false then I stand corrected (not impossible). By mobile phone company I should have been more specific and said manufacturers of mobile phones. I doubt mobile networks operates are entirely agnostic to 5G I’m any case since it requires high capex with each generation. The Gen seems to suggest a world where IoT does away with handsets whereas the two can happily coincide. Your comments are factually very sound. Thanks.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      14 October 2019 @ 14:07
      Here is the DEA report https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2018-11/DIR-032-18%202018%20NDTA%20%5Bfinal%5D%20low%20resolution11-20.pdf I must admit I haven’t read that bit till not but the information I had came from a NJ DEA head interview shortly after the report was released.
  • BA
    Bruce A.
    12 October 2019 @ 04:32
    It is important to bring these issues to light. It's just as important to understand that while the average civilian may be fairly innocent to the interplay of commerce, politics, nationalism, imperialism/foreign intervention, you can be sure that there are plenty of top level US administration officials that are well versed in the 'dark arts'. The US collective leadership has had a good 200 years or so of experience. Study the history of US foreign interventions and you will find a long and interesting list (both covert and overt). The narrative has always been managed by govt to suit it's objectives and the truth was often suppressed or obfuscated for long periods only to emerge after documents were declassified years later or political sensitivities changed.
    • WC
      Wilson C.
      12 October 2019 @ 05:53
      i watched the movie American Made with Tom Cruise. not usually my cup of tea and not sure how true it is but wow, a look at CIA ops in South America back then. as you mention, only years later when documents declassified do you know what happened.
  • JM
    John M.
    12 October 2019 @ 04:20
    USA couldn't afford to invest in its infrastructure & basic research, i.e., human resources but somehow managed to find roughly $6 or$7 trillion dollars to blow stuff up in the Middle East. USA has also spent trillions of dollars building the world's greatest armed forces (& military bases network around the world) but that probably won't be relevant in the national contest with China. Not a great start!
  • LA
    Liping A.
    12 October 2019 @ 04:12
    China is immoral thugs who sold everything American want to buy cheap, but wait a second, isn't fentanyl just an ingredients of painkiller medicines which many US phamasutical companies drugged their own fellow citizens for almost 20 years for profits?
  • TF
    Tamara F.
    12 October 2019 @ 03:58
    Brilliant, thank you. Please find ways to share with wider audience. This message is too important to keep behind a paywall.
  • hb
    huey b.
    12 October 2019 @ 03:29
    Thanks for adding clarity on these subjects.
  • JW
    Ju W.
    12 October 2019 @ 02:48
    If US ever has the guts to face its domestic challenges (wealth redistribution, infrastructure building, education for the poor and anti intellectualism for example), it will never be overtaken by any outsiders. Stop externalising your problems by blaming on others - the old communist China tried it in the 50-70s and only realized it was just as laughable as North Koreans these days. Totally persecution mania. The best way of beating your competitors is to take the hard path and get the best potential out of yourself.
    • AS
      Adrian S.
      12 October 2019 @ 04:05
      Yes valid points. But there trade war and problems with China still needs to be faced and overcome. The global supply chain still needs to be realigned to weakened PRC in the long run lest they challenge us militarily with their new found wealth.
    • PB
      Patrick B.
      12 October 2019 @ 05:10
      That is true, but it doesn't take away from the atrocities described here, or the sheer evil of the CCP.
  • SP
    Stephane P.
    12 October 2019 @ 02:05
    I am falling off my chair. I thought China was just manufacturing cheap Toys. Barely heard about industrialized Concentration camps, Crematorium, and Organ trading taken from live inmates.....wow. Are you sure about that ?
    • AS
      Adrian S.
      12 October 2019 @ 04:06
      Do more research and ask about the Uighurs.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 04:47
      Yes, I’m sure about that! I was written inside the fortune cookie which I got after I demanded my right as a customer to a free fortune cookie after my meal.
  • JL
    James L.
    12 October 2019 @ 00:56
    Please put this one up on YouTube. It's really important for non-subscribers.
    • RP
      RUCHIR P.
      12 October 2019 @ 02:26
      I second that
    • JM
      John M.
      12 October 2019 @ 03:26
      Yes please post for the public.
    • PB
      Patrick B.
      12 October 2019 @ 05:07
      Absolutely!
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 05:32
      Assuming it doesn’t get flagged by YouTube algorithms as suspect political content because someone used the verb “to trump” in the discussion. If you bypassing that, what are the chances some YouTuber (kid) reaching 50 min on something other than fortnite streaming? And for that unicorn non-fortnite YouTuber that stays on that long to hear the two of them talk tech, it will be like the teenager that stayed up well past bed time hoping for babe station but instead overheard their parents have sex.
    • MK
      Mike K.
      12 October 2019 @ 18:56
      Agreed - needs to be public - put it on youtube.
  • JL
    James L.
    12 October 2019 @ 00:52
    Real eye opener! Kyle please bring this discussion forward with General Spalding. I am buying his book and appreciate what you both are doing to create awareness of the CCP dogma.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 05:34
      I hope that guy researches he stocks better than his interview topics.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 05:34
      *his trades
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 05:40
      If that interview convinced you to buy the book I’ve got some Lebanese bonds I think you should look at...
  • JK
    James K.
    12 October 2019 @ 00:40
    Just fascinating.... Please make this available on public YouTube so fe can spread the message ....
  • BA
    Bruce A.
    12 October 2019 @ 00:33
    Kyle was the wrong person to conduct the interview. There is a lot of valuable information here that needs a response by the free world but the interview descended into hyperbole and worse when the opium problem in the US and the job losses where attributed to an evil conspiring warmongering enemy. Drug trade and globalization are more complex than that. It is disappointing when an important message loses some credibility due to an over zealous interviewer. Still I'm glad to have had the opportunity to watch. Thanks RV.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 06:49
      It was the wrong topic to interview him on. A career army general should talk about the army. He was about to retired by instead took a 2 year job in diplomacy based in China for 2 years. He was given 1 year to learn mandarin and they trained him in diplomacy. Fair to say his role was probably more “strategic” than “mission critical”. Who knows, maybe CIA had exhausted all the covers... May as well interviewed him on the history of the various dialects spoken in China.
    • sm
      sam m.
      12 October 2019 @ 09:14
      I am not sure how anyone who has followed realvision wouldn't understand the argument laid out in "The Trap" and "The Reply" about international trade but ymmv.
  • MC
    Mario C.
    11 October 2019 @ 23:09
    When launching the video, I get the below: This video is either unavailable or not supported in this browser Error Code: MEDIA_ERR_SRC_NOT_SUPPORTED Technical details : The media could not be loaded, either because the server or network failed or because the format is not supported. Have you been hacked, or experiencing tech issues?
    • MC
      Mario C.
      11 October 2019 @ 23:15
      Sorry, ignore, my bad. (had changed my chrome settings to stop all these autoplay videos from websites like bloomberg.com). Reverting the settings, it s working all good.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 05:35
      No you’ve been spared :)
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 05:36
      No you’ve been spared. You must be on Raoul’s list.
  • TO
    Tal O.
    11 October 2019 @ 22:13
    Atrocities in Tibet have been going in for more than half a century. Organ harvesting from Falun Gong followers has been going for decades. Uighurs have been struggling for independence for decades. The reason all of this coming out is that now America is in danger as well. Bass' comments are a little over the top, but Otto is right, we have got to stop selling out at some point. As Churchill said "Americans will do the right thing, eventually, after they have tried everything else first" (or something like that).
    • MS
      Michael S.
      12 October 2019 @ 02:23
      Yeah, but our freedom-loving friends in Saudi Arabia have actually flown planes into large buildings, they don't want to hear about human rights, BUT Bass isn't shorting them.
  • AL
    Andrew L.
    11 October 2019 @ 21:38
    Going deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole...
  • AM
    Alison M.
    11 October 2019 @ 21:35
    So Chinese are sending mercenaries and thugs to America to keep people quiet. Scary.
    • KS
      Kathleen S.
      11 October 2019 @ 22:48
      I have met some of these people -- it sounds crazy, but at my gold league I have watched Chinese People buy drinks over and over and over again at a public golf course. Two Chinese woman in paticular and most Americans never questioned this and took the drinks --- until I pointed out, " dont you think this is weird" and then they all started agreeing, but they didn't understand why. Maybe NBA and their reaction to Pro Hong Kong tweet will wake them up.
  • PF
    Patrick F.
    11 October 2019 @ 21:01
    As always, very interesting interview, Kyle.
  • NC
    Nic C.
    11 October 2019 @ 20:51
    boring
    • AM
      Alison M.
      11 October 2019 @ 21:34
      You weren't listening then.
  • RK
    Roger K.
    11 October 2019 @ 20:44
    I wonder how many #CCPAgents will be here to defend their pay masters: the evil , inhumane commie regime which gives very little or no value to human lives as they have so many people 1.3. Billion. If their own people has cheap or no value at all , what about the rest of world!
    • AG
      AlA G.
      13 October 2019 @ 03:07
      So if a person does not agree with Kyle Bass or this interview, he or she is a CCP Agent. You call this democracy and freedom of speech?
  • TS
    Tor S.
    11 October 2019 @ 20:30
    Bad shit. The last part "we need to protect your data" You all understand what he is saying, the general? He is about to fight fire with fire here. Putting our sovereignty on the table, in the end house wins, one way or the other - one house or the other. While waiting i'm gonna make a killing in the shipping market. Cheers!
    • DO
      David O.
      12 October 2019 @ 01:06
      How do we protect our data? How about the blockchain?
  • SP
    Sat P.
    11 October 2019 @ 20:15
    Wow, amazing discussion. The live organ harvesting was disgraceful. Great work from RV
  • TE
    Tito E.
    11 October 2019 @ 19:59
    Israel, that paragon of universal human rights, in a position to criticise China?
    • TE
      Tito E.
      11 October 2019 @ 20:03
      ALL nation states dirty
    • AM
      Alison M.
      11 October 2019 @ 21:17
      Yes, they are, because Israel has not genocided millions of people. Moreover, all of Israel's neighbors have promised to wipe them off the face of the Earth. They are on defense everyday and yet the Arab oil countries manage to make Israel look like the aggressor, when people are waging jihad every single day.
    • MS
      Michael S.
      12 October 2019 @ 02:24
      Bass isn't shorting them.
  • CW
    Casey W.
    11 October 2019 @ 19:54
    Wow, what an extraordinary and enlightening interview. Many thanks to Kyle and to the General.
  • VE
    Viktor E.
    11 October 2019 @ 19:49
    This is fucked up! Thanks for bringing it to the world
  • FF
    Farouk F.
    11 October 2019 @ 19:31
    Kyle... for the love of whatever is dear to you... STOP INTERRUPTING THE GUY YOU ARE TRYING TO INTERVIEW.
    • NC
      Nic C.
      11 October 2019 @ 20:50
      yeah, Kyle just using it as a platform to get his own POV across - nothing really new here
    • MS
      Michael S.
      12 October 2019 @ 02:26
      This is Kyle's agenda, so he's directing the flow of information.
    • MS
      Michael S.
      12 October 2019 @ 02:27
      Ironically, it's "...about controlling the narrative."
  • GL
    Geoffrey L.
    11 October 2019 @ 19:09
    Stop interrupting the man and let him speak
  • TH
    Tom H.
    11 October 2019 @ 19:07
    So what's the trade? hehehe... hehe... ouf...
    • SW
      Scott W.
      11 October 2019 @ 19:34
      Now that's funny!
  • AI
    Alita I.
    11 October 2019 @ 18:54
    And if US falls, the rest of the world dont even stand a chance against CCP. Thats this war important on so many levels
  • WC
    Wilson C.
    11 October 2019 @ 18:44
    As an international RV subscriber, the anti-China narrative is so strong in America right now, and any facts that don't support the "story" is fake news. It's easy to believe the narrative (communist, oppressive, getting stronger, HK, etc) but I hope RV will interview people close to the ground in China to give perspective to your viewers, such as Louis Gave, or Andy Xie (ex-Morgan Stanley), or Kai-Fu Lee (taiwanese-american) author of "AI Super-Powers". News is biased everywhere now (read below for HK riots narrative), I love RV because you try to present unbiased opinions from both sides, please do so with the China vs US narrative and bring on other speakers (all the recent ones have a beef with China). IMHO, it's natural for America to have woken up that China is a rising power, and don't want to share the king's throne, but I dislike the use of a holy crusade against China (thieves, oppression, etc) and using propaganda to drum up support (like the HK riots). I would only say that: - anyone can travel to China, and talk to anyone and many do, there is no gag order or "guided tours" like North Korea. You can form your own opinion on what is seen in the media. This includes Uryghur / Xinjiang area, some have gone there and posted on quora their travels. - Many chinese travel overseas, I see them all over asia (Korea, Japan, Singapore, Thailand, Europe, HK, etc) on holidays, if life/oppression is as portrayed in the media, there would be massive revolt when they return home and see they have been tricked by their govt. The chinese firewall doesn't extend beyond the chinese border, not even to HK. Case in point, the HK fight for freedom/democracy coverage. A valiant struggle that should be supported against the tyranny of China, yes? Most HK'ers I know are for autonomy, rights, etc but don't support rioters/anarchy. But media narrative (now changing finally) has been these young rioters (most are youths, while peaceful protesters are from all walks of life) are shining examples of freedom fighters. Please google or facebook Robert Ovadia, aussie journalist for 7News, and his shocking write up on what is really happening (and threats to him personally) as he covered the recent HK riots for a different perspective.
    • WC
      Wilson C.
      11 October 2019 @ 18:53
      link to Robert Ovadia's facebook post for easy reading. www.facebook.com/142157632831662/posts/936960133351404
    • AI
      Alita I.
      11 October 2019 @ 19:02
      They dont need gag order. See how they are raised in school. People worshipped the party, See North Korea. People genuinely cry and worshipped Kim, theres no need for gag order Dont talk about tourist. Even Chinese students in US still tunes to the Party's propaganda back home instead of learning about human rights and democracy. Naive is what kills the US. GO keep thinking that they are benign, and they will control the mind of every US citizen.
    • KS
      Kathleen S.
      11 October 2019 @ 19:09
      Harvesting Organs???? You're okay with that? You think millions in concentration camps is "fake news"? Sending fentanyl to US to kill Americans is what-- just doing business?? Make no mistake China is the 4th Reich and the greatest threat to western democracy and freedom in the World today. I don't need to go to China to see how dangerous and evil they are - history shows me that they have no problem killing 60 million of their own. Today all I need to do is turn on my tv and watch how the CCP is able to silence the likes of Charles Barkley and others in the NBA who choose money over free speech. I personally am not interested in reading some CCP paid westerners interpretation of the Hong Kong Riots. Those kids in Hong Kong are the bravest in the world -- I STAND WITH HONG KONG!
    • NO
      N O.
      11 October 2019 @ 19:40
      Firstly, read "the 100 year marathon". The motivations of the CCP re the USA are in the open, this isnt a point of debate. Secondly my wife's family is from Taishan and her grandmother (before she died) made us promise to never go to China, take that for what you will. Thirdly Louis Gave has the iq of a boiled onion, find a better China bull.
    • av
      aleksandar v.
      11 October 2019 @ 20:29
      Wilson, I agree with everything you said. It’s based on sober common sense. The only thing I take issue with obviously is this organ harvesting story, if true. But I would need that one to be confirmed from a number of different sources and countries. Question is, which one/ones. And my main question, again, is: should RV take part in this, or should it remain a financial and economic media.
    • SS
      Simeon S.
      11 October 2019 @ 20:44
      Yes, someone just realized the other football team has a goalkeeper too. Frustrating
    • MS
      M S.
      11 October 2019 @ 23:38
      @Wilson C I am an Uyghur came from the exact region that you are trying to be expert on by looking at online images and videos. Let me tell you, Nazi style concentration camps are real. Systematic Oppression agains Uyghur people is real. Entire (40 mil) Uyghur nation is forced to denounce their region, language, culture, Uyghur identity, And their wealth, land been ceased. They are forced to brainwashed and learn Chinese culture to become like a Han Chinese. What’s happening there is ethnic cleansing! It is Holocaust 2.0! Denial and Excuses will NOT end well for no one!
    • CB
      Conrad B.
      12 October 2019 @ 03:25
      They've interviewed a bunch of high profile pro-China people. Kiril, Rogers, Chan to name three off the top of my head.
  • SY
    Steve Y.
    11 October 2019 @ 18:42
    Sorry but I need to vent out my frustration. I totally respect Kyle Bass for his investment intellect and his fight against the Chinese Regime but how dare you call out Steve Kerr in his press conference where he speaks of visiting the White House with his mom after his father was assassinated by terrorists in 1984 (https://twitter.com/Jkylebass/status/1182496515060850688). In his response to Trump's name calling, Kerr simply states that under former President Reagan things were quite different. Americans more united. How is Kerr kowtowing to the Chinese? You, Kyle Bass, on the other hand supposedly "Stand with Hong Kong" but are shorting the hell out of its currency. Btw, I'm a Lakers fan and stand independent politically. I am just so sick of our country being so divided. Kyle Bass, you are not helping the cause.
  • MS
    M S.
    11 October 2019 @ 18:13
    This Interview should be available to the world 🌎 to see for free. This can be one thing that we do to educate the public about CCP. Hands down 🙌🏻, very detailed breakdown of inside Chinese 🇨🇳 Regime. That is absolutely true. Nations like Uyghur and Hong Kong will become free sooner from evil 👿 CCP when more & more people know the background. Great Interview!
    • SP
      Sat P.
      11 October 2019 @ 20:18
      This should indeed be put on YouTube for the public to see.
  • RT
    Rex T.
    11 October 2019 @ 17:45
    Kyle has never been that patriotic and negative on China since his short HK dollar trade he put on as he described in his previous RV interview. His twitter account spreads so much fake news on HK protests. Uygur mistreatment is a serious and sad issue but can Kyle reflect on US’s transgressions in Vietnam, Guantanamo, Native Indians.... and not just paint the CCP as the only evil government. Fetanyl from China vs purposely imported crack cocaine by CIA in LA? We don’t need these hypocritical presenters on RV who in the end just want to get their views out for the sake of making their trade turn in their favor.
    • EW
      Evan W.
      11 October 2019 @ 18:02
      Man decries twitter account for fake news. Also claims CIA imported crack cocaine into LA. Made me laugh - thanks.
    • AB
      Andre B.
      11 October 2019 @ 18:36
      It's not hypocritical for Kyle to not mention past US transgressions because it's not part of the conversation and even if he does, what is that going to change? Something still needs to be done about the CCP. Also let's get real, the hypocrisy is coming from giant American corporations that trash the US government and it's history at every opportunity, yet they say nothing about all the atrocities happening right now in China... NBA forcing their players to stand for China's Anthem but they let them kneel during the US anthem, Daryl Morey forced to apologize for supporting democracy, Blizzard stripping prize money and banning a Hong Kong based gamer over his support for Hong Kong...
    • DM
      Daniel M.
      11 October 2019 @ 19:56
      Evan..Look up Iran Contra, Mena Arkansas, Freeway Rick Ross. The CIA, did sell and import cocaine into the country. Even PBS has reported on it.
    • JB
      John B.
      11 October 2019 @ 22:41
      This is classic Whataboutism. Since when does Guantanamo and Native American genocide have anything to do with CCP organ harvesting and concentration camps? Oh wait it doesn't. This idea that any time an American discusses human rights they are contractually obligated by the American Shame Foundation to acknowledge a disavow American misdeeds for 90% of the interview is infuriating. The idea that no American can speak on human rights because of the Trail of Tears is incredibly dumb, what other country is held to the standard of perpetual shame? No other society on earth is required to preface everything its citizens say with "Before we talk about Current Event X lets first take the time to acknowledge and accept the shame of our forefathers by listing misdeeds by other Americans that I am not related to." Anyone who thinks that a discussion of CCP organ harvesting should take a detour to discuss the murder of Native Americans by Andrew Jackson probably needs one of those brain transplants that the CCP is selling; as clearly theirs didn't come with the basic logical reasoning functionality.
    • PL
      Paulise L.
      12 October 2019 @ 01:43
      Agreed totally, Kyle must have lost a fortune by recent short HK dollar trade, that's why he appeared so often now in RV interview, if he's winning in those trade, he would have retired comfortably somewhere far away, instead of making so many bias political RV interview here. RV is not a platform for political bias, propaganda, or discussion of controversial topics, thousands of these bias junky topics we can watch them all FREE from youtube. If RV wants to continue recruiting more paid members, please stay away from sensitive political or judgmental interviewers or fake news. At first launched, RV promised right from beginning to focus on financial viewpoints, RV, please do not let yourself become one of those ...... like zerohedge, fakenews writer, or seeking alpha ......
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 05:57
      If you want to follow what’s happening in China follow a blend of locals and foreigners who have done China politics for 20+ years. They do exist! Not someone 10K miles away in the US who’s mandarins is a good the translated fortune cookies. Same applies for markets... the people in the weeds are too busy trading not making videos. They’re much harder to talk to.
  • OC
    Otto C.
    11 October 2019 @ 17:12
    In summary, The US is prostituting itself to China for money. Great interview!!!
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 14:11
      Better for money than love.
  • NA
    Nickle A.
    11 October 2019 @ 16:52
    Interesting. Complete opposite to the recent Jim Rogers piece - In Bass I trust.
  • CY
    CHIHLUN Y.
    11 October 2019 @ 15:27
    Very interesting interview, and Kyle's views are also extensive. But he sometimes forget he is the interviewer and not the interviewee, and starts talking over the interviewee. Of course, he gets interviewed on RealVision as well, so that's his best opportunity to express his view.
  • CH
    Cliff H.
    11 October 2019 @ 14:58
    One of the best interviews yet! Thanks Kyle and the General!!
  • MC
    Mike C.
    11 October 2019 @ 14:46
    Phenomenal interview.
  • VS
    Varvara S.
    11 October 2019 @ 14:33
    Nothing is more important than the fight for democracy, and human rights, but no need to be so hypocrite and arrogant. Sale of fentanyl - USA's sale of weapons in the middle east uyghur genicide - indians genocide questioning US sovereignty by shutting protesters on their soil - ...US general disregard for everyone else's sovereignty + economic bullying As you said, regimes come and go and in the meantime US's 'top of the pyramid' is becoming miraculously rich. mb one needs to start by looking inside its own country: addressing the demand-side of drugs smuggling, cheap labour, etc. rather than fighting enemies all across the globe P.S. 9/11 remark so cheap..
    • DM
      Daniel M.
      11 October 2019 @ 19:58
      So, two wrongs equals a who cares? Got it. Next stupid argument please.
    • JB
      John B.
      12 October 2019 @ 16:09
      "Nothing is more important than the fight for democracy, and human rights" except if an American is talking about it. Then lets ignore all of what I just said and turn the topic to how bad America is. Say what you really mean: Human rights aren't important, unless we are talking about American human rights violations. The United States provides the resources, from money to expertise, in promoting human rights on a scale that isn't even comparable to any other nation or group of nations (including the EU). The money that comes from American donors, American NGOs and the American government dwarfs any other source of do good'er dollars/personnel. If it wasn't for the Americans propping up the international system, including the UN and the WHO, who would insure the majority of coordinated public benefit programs exist? Nobody else even attempts to contribute on an American scale. Has America done things that were bad? Yes they have. Has America also been the largest source of funding to promote democracy and human rights, yes by far. I'm not asking anyone to ignore things America has done wrong. Snce we are in the business of bringing up unrelated human rights issues; anytime you bring up unrelated American human rights violations, list the unrelated American pro-human rights actions. But I'm sure none of these "But "Murica did X" proponents will do that. The simplest way to find out if a country is actually a force for protecting human rights around the world is to look at its attitude towards the US. Because like or not, America is the source of the majority of pro-human rights efforts. Nobody else comes close, even taken as a whole the EU (second largest) contributes far less than the United States.
  • GF
    George F.
    11 October 2019 @ 14:31
    "yet, we have one country to date that has banned traveling to China to do a transplant." Israel had a number of organ transplant scandals and eventually, the Israeli government had to regulate it. It was not a China-specific problem. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_transplantation_in_Israel#Organ_trafficking
    • GF
      George F.
      11 October 2019 @ 15:04
      Greece sold the port of Pireaus to the Chinese to appease the Germans and the IMF & Freinds. Similar to the way the US ended up the winner of WWII, China is going to end up the winner of the Global War on Terror.
  • KS
    Karen S.
    11 October 2019 @ 14:29
    oh my god
  • JL
    Johnny L.
    11 October 2019 @ 14:20
    Great interview
  • VS
    Varvara S.
    11 October 2019 @ 14:12
    "They took away America's factories, they took away their jobs, they took away healthcare, they took away their retirement funds. Then they started sending in the drugs and killing them." Wow, indeed, the monstrous Chinese. These Mexicans drugging the poor Americans, the Chinese destroying American social security, the Russians diving the society.
  • JK
    Jay K.
    11 October 2019 @ 13:32
    Another cold war? With China? They are not like the Soviets. We do an incredible amount of trade with them.
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    georgy g.
    11 October 2019 @ 12:27
    RV you made it my patriotic duty to renew the subscription. Thank you
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    Vladimir R.
    11 October 2019 @ 11:18
    I listen to this until he got to talking about 5G. He is very confused what 5G brings to the table and why it’s a big deal. 5G doesn’t really do any of what he talks about. It doesn’t even enable those technologies. Face recognition and deviceless interaction are totally unrelated to 5G. The main reason 5G is scary is because it will use integrated antennas with tons of bandwidth and you can sneak in more sophisticated spyware in the silicon. If he is that misinformed about 5G I have to wonder what else he is wrong about.
    • JW
      Jon W.
      11 October 2019 @ 13:16
      The higher frequencies at which 5G operates allows for smaller antenna, and thus device miniaturization. It also allows for a tenfold increase in the number of devices in a given area. And the vastly increased bandwidth of 5G allows for far more audio/video feeds and data processing (and so facial recognition, automatic lip reading, whatever). All of these features of 5G are necessary to reach a future where these powerful little devices are scattered all around us, can run a software platform (be that by Google, Baidu, whatever) that is "available" everywhere, feeds info to a centralized system, and can "service" our needs without us having to carry a smartphone. So while you're technically correct that 5G is not the same as this software platform that could run on top of it, I can't agree that they are unrelated. In the countries that build their infrastructure on China's 5G I expect that 5G technology and such a software platform will increasingly be distributed together and thought of as a single system (at least by the general, non-technical public for whom both will come together).
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      Cyril L.
      11 October 2019 @ 14:33
      How are they totally unrelated? How do these work without fast data transmission on a large scale?
    • VR
      Vladimir R.
      11 October 2019 @ 17:33
      Folks, you are barking the wrong tree. I work on telecom infra, we talk about these things all day long. First of all, in terms of video bandwidth 5G brings nothing new. We already have cable infrastructure that is far superior to 5G. You don't need 5G for this. Second you still need a wire to power any cameras and the radios, so having a cable for power but use 5G for data doesn't make any sense. 5G is purely designed for cell phones and mobile routers on battery power. Any other application is really outside of the goals it was designed with. Finally, I've seen the security reports. The most worrisome vector is the possibility for in-chip integrated antenna at these frequencies. Because with this now you have a totally invisible spying device that blends with the rest of the RF spectrum. Nobody is going to run power wires around hotels and stores just to power up 5G data devices and fill up spectrum when the existing power over ethernet is far more suitable and actually designed for this. It's disappointing to see anybody saying this when it's a very well known and well studied subject.
    • JW
      Jon W.
      11 October 2019 @ 18:18
      Right now, how many places do power cables reach vs. Ethernet cabling? How many power outlets are there vs. Ethernet outlets (especially outside)? It's not even comparable. 5G makes it feasible to hook devices into power that already exists at lots of random places (street lights, shop signs, etc.) which wouldn't be realistic if you had to go to the trouble and expense of running Ethernet cables to all these same places. To be clear, I'm not in any way dismissing the undetectable-spying-device concerns. It's obviously very valid at the hardware/telecoms level. But the usage that you say is envisaged for 5G does not limit how it will be used, or how Silicon Valley type folks and others are getting excited about using it. (I mean even now with 3G/4G we have that technology built into our cars to provide traffic updates, monitor the smooth running of our vehicles, and allowing car manufacturers to track our movements, and that wasn't the original intention of those technologies.) The security reports that you refer to presumably are specific to the hardware/telecoms side of things, whereas national security people (and everyone really) should be considering the whole-world, all-possibility security issues.
    • VR
      Vladimir R.
      11 October 2019 @ 19:15
      @Jon > Right now, how many places do power cables reach vs. Ethernet cabling? It doesn't matter. For such applications, if you don't have an ethernet cable within reach you will use WiFi like a ring security camera. WiFi technologies at high frequencies will always be better as they are sharing the spectrum more narrowly, thus more bandwidth and are positioned better indoors or on private property not available to the carriers.
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      Michael S.
      12 October 2019 @ 03:47
      On being misinformed, what was that nonsense about the "Russians creating protests after the election" or whatever? The Russians, if anything, hacked the election in support of Trump BEFORE the election, and it becomes more and more clear every day why they did that. Putin is loving this. But that's not so much misinformed as just making stuff up, which I guess is just as bad.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 06:02
      Exactly! Exactly! Rest assured there are other things which were also poorly understood or represented which may have been... but nothing was as bad at 5G! We’ve been hearing about the iPhone killer for years but never thought it would be the network that kills the phone.
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    Nicholas L.
    11 October 2019 @ 10:48
    Without doubt the best Kyle Bass interview. Book ordered. Please have more of the same? Could Real Vision put this out for free? The world needs to see this!
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 06:05
      Never seen any of his other interviewer but I think you just spared me future ones.
    • MK
      Mike K.
      12 October 2019 @ 18:56
      Absolutely one of the better interviews, and Kyle's best. Somehow... why does the name ELON come to mind when they talk about corrupt US billionaires, siding with China's policies to line their pockets... hmmm Excellent, excellent interview. Book ordered.
  • JW
    Jon W.
    11 October 2019 @ 09:11
    @59:05 "Not only does the government need to be able to protect its own data...we need to protect your data. Because that's what guarantees your rights as a citizen to be free; in a 21st century context." It's interesting that the military/intelligence community take a different view on this to law enforcement. Personally the push by law enforcement for software backdoors and against end-to-end encryption worries me for exactly the reasons Spalding outlines at the end of this video.
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    aleksandar v.
    11 October 2019 @ 09:07
    I think the horror of Guantanamo (especially the psychological terror) speaks for itself, and makes organ harvesting a walk in the park (and sorry, no excuses such as national security justify Guantanamo, just like no Nazi can justify their actions). Though I have no reason to denounce bad and very bad behavior of the Chinese government, truth-seeking people should perhaps give a chance to Oliver Stone’s series “The untold history of the United States”. I’m pretty sure many would not be able/willing to endure the whole series, just as I couldn’t endure Kyle’s interview. In every interview, Kyle demonstrates his polar political views, be it Milosevic (who signed the Deyton Agreement fabricated by the U.S. and still got bombed, and who mysteriously died in prison during his trial, therefore not proven guilty), China, or anything else. Unfortunately he never misses the opportunity to demonstrate American hypocrisy. RV, I believe you should really get back to economic topics and choose your interviewer and interviewees accordingly. People like me, your international clients, would greatly appreciate.
    • JW
      Jon W.
      11 October 2019 @ 09:25
      If it was up to me the individuals responsible for the torture at Guantanamo would be put before the ICC. That said, I have to take issue with your statement that it "makes organ harvesting a walk in the park". Maybe you don't realize that the apparent industrial scale organ harvesting involves killing the prisoners of conscience for organs they can't survive without, as necessary, and to frequently be done with only the paralyzing part of the anisthetic (not the numbing/putting to sleep part) that you would normally receive for an operation. Read through some of the stuff on https://chinatribunal.com/ - it's horrific. You may not like listening to people from opposite camps point out the crimes of the other because it can be hypocritical, but to me I find it can be a useful way to get at the unvarnished truth (filtering for the untruths). I also find videos like this relevant to piecing together what's going on behind the scenes and how it will affect the macro environment longer term.
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      Nicholas L.
      11 October 2019 @ 10:51
      What planet are you from? There was no polarising at all! Shame on you!
    • NL
      Nicholas L.
      11 October 2019 @ 10:52
      Sorry hit the wrong reply..
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      aleksandar v.
      11 October 2019 @ 13:15
      Jon, I absolutely agree with you on the organ harvesting being beyond horrific. I wasn’t really trying to compare that against Guantanamo (if you took offense with the quote “....walk in the park”, my apologies), as I don’t even want to know what’s worse. I just tried to say that psychological torture is supposedly the worst thing a human being can endure, subject to anybody’s personal opinion. I for sure condemn both organ harvesting and Guantanamo torture, regardless of which country is conducting it.
    • JW
      Jon W.
      11 October 2019 @ 13:55
      Thanks, aleksandar. No offense taken by me. I'm mostly just worried that such alarming claims (in the interview) would be dismissed based on the nationality of the interviewees rather than based on factual correctness. As much as the greed-induced crimes of the US has lost them a lot of goodwill and moral standing among the public in countries around the world, the idea of them being destroyed and replaced by the totalitarian CPC as the world's hegemony takes scary to another level.
    • BK
      Boris K.
      11 October 2019 @ 14:07
      oliver stone's series is totally skewed and in my opinion ridiculous... you are correct i could not finish the series(very nicely edited but lacking in basis of truth)...your statement of " I have no reason to denounce bad and very bad behavior of the Chinese government" clearly show which truth you are leaning toward.
    • MS
      M S.
      11 October 2019 @ 19:05
      I don’t know what horrors you are talking about Guantanamo? To compare against more than 4 million innocent Uyghur people locked in concentration camps being forced to do salve labors before they were picked to be Organ Harvested by CCP, including kids, young, even grandmas and pas. There are 775 people were arrested for alleged to plot or haloed in any form or shape in 9/11. so far 735 of those Guantanamo prisoners has been proven innocent ,they were just at the wrong place at the wrong time, therefore released and settle into different countries. And during all their time in Guantanamo, they were allowed to practice their religion, allowed to preserve their national and cultural identity, and not forced to do any slavery work, not their organs were harvested. In contrast, not charged with any crime, totally innocent 4 million Uyghur people are forced to denounce their religion, forced to denounce their culture and identity, forced to brainwash, forced to do free labor, forcibly organs being harvested in Concentration Camps in Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, NW China ( Occupied EastTurkistan). To this horror, Guantanamo sounds like the Ritz-Carlton. Let’s put a side those in concentration camps, those who are outside the camps (around 40 million Uyghurs) were also systemically oppress your denounce their religion, culture, language and forced to become Han Chinese. This is not a story from WWII, it is real and it is happing as we speak. This video is very educational whe. It comes to what CCP represents. In order to spread the information, this video should be come freely available to the world 🌎 to see!
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      Kreso B.
      12 October 2019 @ 13:24
      Relax people. Aleksandar is a Serb, and has to plug in Milosevic, and trash America.
  • JV
    Jens V.
    11 October 2019 @ 08:17
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Document_Number_Nine
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    Jens V.
    11 October 2019 @ 07:40
    Brilliant interview. Thanks for doing this. The world is waking up to the true nature of the Chinese Communist Party, and there is no going back. It is great to see that it’s happening, but I’m amazed that it took so long. I suspect that this will be the defining struggle of our lifetimes.
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    David S.
    11 October 2019 @ 06:42
    The opening line of China being an evil organization is enough for me stop this video, Evil is in our own backyard as well. What did we do to the Native Americans? What are we doing now to Native Americans? I hope that reason will rule with the Uyghur people as well as our our Native Americans. DLS
    • TR
      Travis R.
      11 October 2019 @ 06:47
      Show me a Native American concentration camp where they are harvesting organs and I will be the tip of the spear to set them free. Get real with your BS comment.
    • JW
      Jon W.
      11 October 2019 @ 08:44
      That's not what he said. He said that about the CCP. And the very next thing he said was to clarify that he is not referring to the people. "There is no morals invested, or human dignity, or human rights invested in the Chinese Communist Party. It is really about an evil an organization. Not because the Chinese people are evil, but because it seeks only power and control. [...] We got to know the Chinese people. They were some of the most hard working, resilient, friendly people that you'll ever meet." Besides that, "we did/do some evil things, so I'm not going to listen to someone making the case that we have/are sleep walked into something huge and scary" because that person used the word "evil" to describe a totalitarian government seems a bit narrow minded.
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    Travis R.
    11 October 2019 @ 06:10
    The only subject that really matters is the plight of the Uyghur people. Who really cares about anything else when masses are being savagely oppressed by an authoritarian criminal regime.
    • JV
      Jens V.
      11 October 2019 @ 08:34
      True. It's certainly enough in it self. But we need to keep track of all transgressions.
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      Wilson C.
      11 October 2019 @ 18:06
      people can visit the Uyghur region, there are postings on Quora that present the on-the-ground reality vs the media narrative of oppression. There was a quora commentor who recently went there and took lots of photos, not something you can do in North Korea or certain dictatorships in Africa. Hong Kong protests are the same, the media portrays it as a valiant fight for freedom/democracy, dear to the hearts of those of us who are lucky to have it. But watch the hidden side, the side that is not shown (as it breaks the narrative), google or facebook Robert Ovadia, an aussie journalist for 7News, and read his account of him covering the HK riots. Eye-opening.
    • MS
      M S.
      11 October 2019 @ 19:26
      @Wilson C As you mentioned, media narratives can NOT be trusted. So are those Images and videos posted on Quora. It can NOT be trusted because there is a Gov agency in China pays people to go on online sites like Quora, FB, Twitter, Insta... you name it, to only comment and post for the interest of CCP. It called 五毛 (Wu Mao) As an Uyghur, I can tell you that what has been discussed in the interview is completely true. What you have been hearing about Uyghur People Lately is correct. I know it’s unbelievable, as if it’s a scenery from WWII movie. But it is real and it it happening as we speak.
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      duy n.
      12 October 2019 @ 00:36
      Not only Uyghurs, Tibetans, Mongolians but also Vietnamese and Filipinos. There are Vietnamese and Filipinos fishermen whose ships are rammed and sunk by Chinese militia and left to die at sea. Recently 22 Filipino fishermen were saved by a passing ship otherwise they would have been statistics in China's attempt to create another "Greater East Asia C-Prosperity Sphere".