China vs. the U.S. – Trade War to Cold War?

Published on
October 11th, 2019
Duration
60 minutes

China vs. the U.S. – Trade War to Cold War?

The Kyle Bass Interviews ·
Featuring Gen. Robert Spalding

Published on: October 11th, 2019 • Duration: 60 minutes

Is globalization breaking down before our eyes? Kyle Bass sits down with retired Brigadier General Robert Spalding to discuss what’s really happening inside China. Spalding spent years living in China as Defense Attache in Bejing and served as the chief China strategist for the chairman of the Joint Chiefs. Spalding brings his deep knowledge of the people, culture, economy, and military posture of China to the table in discussing the multifaceted threat to the US posed by the rising Asian superpower. Filmed on September 27, 2019 in Washington D.C.

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  • ii
    ida i.
    24 November 2019 @ 09:55
    https://chinatribunal.com/the-hearings-april-2019/
  • BB
    Blake B.
    20 November 2019 @ 02:03
    It's a bit too ironic if you look at US foreign policy the last 150yr and lived in a country who was victim of their destruction. China is actually pretty smart and out USA the USA. When China joined the WTO the US was hoping to get the American financial systems testicles in China and take over. Instead the Chinese offered the USA an unlimited credit card for nicknacks and junk and also gutted all the high value sectors in the process. At the same time the Chinese elites tightly knit themselves into the global elites circles. They also trained the the American managerial class that they deserve huge salaries for helping gut American industry and the middle class, and also trained the American political elites to bail out the bad actors at the expense of the middle class. The Chinese made it so the American elites are in for a penny and in for a pound. So there is no way the USA elites with fight China since they will need to turn on themselves in the process. Basically check and mate!
  • VW
    Voytek W.
    3 November 2019 @ 02:11
    TL;DR “China Govt bad, US (esp its intelligence community) good” Stopped watching half way through bc its very biased. Yes let’s have US govt support HK vandals destroying businesses and maybe they can please keep dropping bombs on innocent people (ideally nuclear as they did in Japan). What a couple a fanatics.
  • AP
    Andrew P.
    25 October 2019 @ 18:21
    Great insights. As a sidebar to the general freedom discussion, it's refreshing to hear somebody understand the 2nd amendment.
  • JL
    Joel L.
    25 October 2019 @ 01:02
    Wow!! More people need to hear this message about China
  • ZH
    Zayd H.
    23 October 2019 @ 11:55
    KB - you are clearly a true American patriot. Your interviews (both as interviewer and interviewee) have had a noticeable impact on the national discourse vis a vis China. I happen to totally disagree with your conclusions on how to interface with China...but absolutely love that you are fearless in speaking your mind. Don't stop.
  • VP
    Victor P.
    22 October 2019 @ 17:32
    All about China is true, but what's the difference with US? That the regime is with a smiling face? Did we forgot about total surveliance by NSA? Reading "Permanent Record" highly advisable.
    • JC
      John C.
      26 October 2019 @ 19:58
      False equivalence. US is not interning millions of Uighurs and harvesting organs, or stealing IP on a mass basis globally, or waging a war on the US population by importing 90% of all fetanyl and feeding the opiod crisis. The CCP are essentially a form of modern-day Nazis.
  • PM
    Paul M.
    21 October 2019 @ 17:50
    K.Bass does a great job of bringing these issues to our attention. The Communist Party of China (CPC) must just love him. Keep it up, brother. I want my adult children to hear this. Do I have to wait for the YouTube release?
  • BK
    Brian K.
    21 October 2019 @ 14:14
    Anyone know more about this? " Fentanyl is a good example of this. It comes out of the pharmaceutical factories, the same factories that are producing--the core factories that are producing all the drugs, generic drugs that come across from China" I haven't heard that its being produced in same factories as legal APIs
  • TS
    Tom S.
    21 October 2019 @ 07:32
    I wouldn't bet on the USA having any moral compass going forward if the past is any predictor ....
    • JC
      John C.
      26 October 2019 @ 19:59
      Did you watch the video? Or are you a hardcore socialist/Marxist?
  • LJ
    Liam J.
    18 October 2019 @ 20:01
    I wonder has anyone ever looked into naspers ? they're tencent biggest shareholder owning about 31% stake. from what i can see they have their hands on all sorts of payment and media companies al over the world. I wonder if they take care of alot of the misinformation campaigns worldwide for china and use their power in africa for china (conspiracy hat on) just basing this on lots of assumptions lol haven't actually done alot of research on this.
    • LJ
      Liam J.
      18 October 2019 @ 20:05
      they're also part of the libra foundation that's even scarier lol
  • KJ
    Kelly J.
    18 October 2019 @ 15:10
    Thanks for this interview, Kyle. When I first started listening to it, I thought I was going to disagree with the thrust of it as too simplistically nationalistic - a 'US good guys vs Chinese bad guys' narrative. That changed as I listened to your whole discussion with General Spalding, and the two of you underlined the reality of the extreme repression, something I was already aware of, and the concentration camps, which I knew of but was less aware of, and the organ harvesting which I was unaware of, but then confirmed as real to my satisfaction from other online sources. You and the General also underlined the Chinese goal of international dominance, which had been pretty clear to me, but which you put a point on in a useful way. My guess is that your politics are different than mine, but nonetheless, I think you're conveying a message that it's important for all of us in the US to receive, to be aware of, and to act on, regardless of where we fall on the political spectrum - I'm now going to be emphasizing it to 'my' political buds, who are probably coming from a somewhat different place than yours are. I do think that the presentation is weakened by its implicit sense that US foreign policy itself has had 'clean hands' - eg, you make no reference to the extreme brutality and corruption that the US itself has shown in pursuit of its own goal of global dominance in the last century, killing millions around the world and destroying the infrastructure and lives of millions of others senselessly in pursuit of its own corrupt military-industrial profit machine and other commercial interests again and again - in Vietnam, the Middle East and elsewhere. Still, that doesn't change the validity of your message, and the difference between a country like ours that at least has the nominal goal of fostering democracy, free speech and higher ideals for individual freedom and moral behavior - even if it often fails - and one that explicitly and perniciously does the opposite, and additionally intends to control and extinguish our own, to the extent it's able, just as we have intended to swallow China up with our corrupt version of Wall St 'money is speech' democracy & our idiotic, planet-destroying mass consumerism. I would only add that it's important, IMO, that we all make complex distinctions, make our own individual assessments - not get caught up in groupthink on this or any issue. I think Trump is a very destructive person and President, but I agree with his thrust toward confronting China, even if I think his specific strategies/execution for doing it have often not been that good. Similarly, although we have to confront China, it's also a mistake to assume that the control freak, power-mad leadership in China can't eventually be replaced and evolve over time as the world confronts those powerful elements that must be confronted and encourages the more collaborative elements and angels that exist in China, just as our own government can also change for the better as we powerfully confront the absurd power-hungry and money-mad elements of our own society and encourage the better angels of our own nature. There are many to encourage - both here and there. Confrontation alone isn't likely to yield a good result at all. Examining and correcting the failings of our own money-mad, power-mad leaders and power brokers will be part of the solution of dealing with theirs.
  • CS
    Colin S.
    16 October 2019 @ 22:28
    Kyle- Damn good interview - Brig Gen Spalding sounds like a principled man in a time when principles are hard to find let alone recognize in the average American -- who has already sold out principle, ethic and morality. Of course America itself has rarely been led by principled men, by ethic and by Godly discernment which can be seen in our own system; whether its the Fed, Wall Street or banking and corporate interests domestically or IMF and World Bank economic destruction in third world nations. It always ends up -- with an elevated chosen few -- to the detriment of the citizenry. Obviously politics and geopolitics drives markets -- look at what in the heck is occurring over in the EU with Brexit; I am for decoupling from China until the CCP is neutered in its entirety. Kyle, again thank you for this fine hard-core interview and the previous interviews with both Steve Bannon and Myles Kwok - both enlightening and sobering. For the rest of you who will invest and seek profit wherever you find it and at whatever cost - there will be a final settlement and it won't be in cold hard cash but in everlasting finality - likely hell. Thanks again, Colin Simes
  • PB
    Pieter B.
    16 October 2019 @ 06:45
    This was really great! Thanks a lot guys!
    • RW
      Richard W.
      16 October 2019 @ 08:09
      I think that whilst different in style this was an immensely interesting interview and just what I like about RV. thought provoking.
  • JO
    Joseph O.
    15 October 2019 @ 17:56
    Yikes. I agree with the substantive points here but Kyle was jumping all over this guy! Maybe he was simply excited to get to the meat of the conversation but his abrupt shepherding style here was a bit jarring in contrast to his previous thoughtful patience and intermittent prodding contribution.
  • RE
    Ryan E.
    15 October 2019 @ 11:25
    Does anybody have any info on the 5G angle Spalding was describing? ie. no more phones, ordering an Uber with just your voice ect...
    • KB
      K B.
      15 October 2019 @ 17:39
      https://presentdangerchina.org/2019/06/5g-huawei-and-the-threat-of-chinas-digital-imperialism/
  • cs
    cat s.
    15 October 2019 @ 05:41
    Interesting to watch but the general came across as a total hypocrite, his main issue seemed to be the worry that China has started to employ political methods and strategies the US have been following for decades. It would be very worrying if the belief of US generals really is that some Russian facebook ads changed the whole US political environment ....
    • JC
      John C.
      26 October 2019 @ 20:02
      "When the Arabs come, it will be as the Russians were like brothers".....
  • NB
    Nikola B.
    15 October 2019 @ 04:51
    Kyle Bass should return money to his investors and become a politician. This interview completely misses the point of why this site was created, in the first place. Next time you talk about China find someone else, please.
    • KB
      K B.
      15 October 2019 @ 11:57
      Politics and geopolitics now drive markets. To remove political analysis from RV is a bad idea.
    • JC
      John C.
      26 October 2019 @ 20:02
      So you either work for Nike, the NBA or are at a DC think tank, right?
  • CM
    Chris M.
    15 October 2019 @ 02:49
    I like Kyle, but it has gotten to the point that he is too biased. Don't necessarily disagree with the points made, but with his interviews, I know where the conversation is going before even watching the video. The video would have been better with a different host.
    • jr
      james r.
      15 October 2019 @ 03:45
      Perhaps the NBA Commissioner Adam Silver would have been more to your liking?
    • EL
      Eric L.
      15 October 2019 @ 04:07
      I agree. I would much prefer to stick to financial or investment analysis, and leave the politics out of it. It will be a pitty RV becomes a extended platform for politics
    • GM
      Gavin M.
      15 October 2019 @ 12:36
      So what if Kyle has a view? That does not make him ' too biased'. He has done more research on China than most of the commenters on here put together. If you fail to understand the importance of China, it's far reaching ambitions and need it spelled out for you how this pertains to financial markets, then just don't watch this, turn on Cramer on CNBC for some more Booya BS and stay broke.
    • JC
      John C.
      26 October 2019 @ 20:04
      One cannot only do financial analysis when it comes to China. Everything the CCP controls and runs is political. They run their country and economy with an iron hand.
  • WW
    Wade W.
    15 October 2019 @ 02:11
    As much as this may be true, the US should look long and hard at how they destroyed millions of lives over the past decades via physical and economic war. And Kyle Bass should quit strong arming his guest.
    • jr
      james r.
      15 October 2019 @ 03:48
      How? Were you under the impression that Gen Spalding actually was a fan of the CCP but Kyle bullied him into saying otherwise? Seemed pretty clear to me that the two were already of a common view. Not all interviews must have a "point vs counter-point" format in order to be effective.
    • CR
      Chad R.
      18 October 2019 @ 01:16
      His guest formed his views douchnuzzle
  • JS
    Johannes S.
    14 October 2019 @ 23:42
    The lack of journalistic standard in this interview is shocking. This is the worst RV interview I've seen by far, mostly due to Bass pushing his own agenda. His is not interested in learning anything new from the interviewee, but just uses him to validate what he already knows/believes. To assert the Chinese government is willfullingly killing 40k US citizens a year with Fethanol, and comparing this to 9/11, insinuating that it warrants going to war?? After Vietnam, Iraq, Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo, and children of asylum seekers dying in camps, this is the height of hypocracy. It is the same argument that the US rejects when it comes to gun violence (gun producers are not to blame for gun deaths) or personal responsibility in health care ("no body is forced to use drugs"). Oh yes, and the bit about greed and capitalism is really funny. So when the US in on top, capitalism and personal responsibility is great, but as soon as there is an economic rival who is about to outmatch the US in its capitalist prowess, suddenly its all greed and evil? And to all those who conveniently dismiss any critque of this vides as Chinese trolling, I am a European, my name is Johannes Schunter, look me up on LinkedIn if you want (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschunter). This interview really jeopardizes RV's reputation as an independant information channel about macro finance and investing. Doesn't mean some of the points raised aren't valid (Uigur camps, organ), but interviwer and the way the content is presented, discredits the entire piece. Here's a novel suggestion: If you do a piece about China, how about letting Chinese Americans work on it, both as inteviewers and experts, who understand both sides? That would make this so much more credible.
    • RT
      Rune T.
      15 October 2019 @ 00:09
      Agreed. But you'll have to look long and far to find any Americans to consider their own reputation in the world. It's kinda embarrassing to sit through the entire video...
    • WW
      Wade W.
      15 October 2019 @ 02:20
      I agree with you 100%. Americans let millions of wrongs happen while profiting off WW2. It took the bombing of Pearl Harbour for the Americans to get involved. The US should be kissing Kissinger’s ass for tying their currency to crude oil, so they had the world universal currency. Because if the US didn’t own the printing press for this money they would be screwed, China would destroy them in terms of commerce, manufacturing and every other facet of economics. War too. Me. Bass is no different than those bad billionaires he is talking about. He has a lot riding financially on China’s stock market crashing and this interview, along with all his other interviews against China are totally self serving.
    • CM
      Chris M.
      15 October 2019 @ 02:55
      Just posted above, but agree with you. With Kyle beating big on a coming Chinese failure, his views are now too biased to be an effective interviewer. One loses credibility even if the points are valid.
    • jr
      james r.
      15 October 2019 @ 03:08
      "Journalistic Standard"? Honey Please, Go watch CNN if you're into 'I'm ok you're ok' puff pieces when discussing the only nation in the world that has made an industry out of organ harvesting. To your final point (all were laughable btw), I suppose only German-American journalists would have been trustworthy enough to cover the horrors occurring inside Treblinka in WWII by your standard?
    • JS
      Johannes S.
      15 October 2019 @ 05:38
      @James. So sorry. Here I was, thinking that the purpose of an interview was to learn from the interviewer, not to promote one's own point of view (and book). How silly of me. What I really find weird in this Chinese series is all those (mostly white) folks pointing out how the West doesn't understand China, when there are 3.8 million people of Chinese decent living in the US. Surely one of them must be able to explain the country to their fellow Americans?
    • KB
      K B.
      15 October 2019 @ 12:00
      Gordon Chang is one of Kyle Bass' main advisors. He is a Chinese American and would fit your criterium. However he is even more hawkish on China. My conclusion: your criterium is useless.
    • JC
      John C.
      26 October 2019 @ 20:12
      #Chinatroll -- didn't realize the CCP had infiltrated RV but sure seems like it with you Johannes. That or our some sort of Scandi Marxist who is bought and paid by the Chinese at a far leftist think tank or university. The whole point here is that the Chinese have masterfully played the West in general with their massive IP stealing and infiltration of our universities, think tanks and corporations. CPP are some of the most racist, evil autocrats the planet has ever seen akin to the Nazis in some ways and you are defending them? I guess the Uighur camps, organ harvesting, military bases in the South China Sea, huge surveillance state, social credit scores etc. are a-ok to you right? Your moral amibiguity and equivalence is shameful.
  • SJ
    Sean J.
    14 October 2019 @ 22:32
    Love Kyle's call out of the traitorous billionaire elites in the US who've been brainwashed with pieces of silver by the CCP. They need to be named and endlessly humiliated.
  • PW
    Phil W.
    14 October 2019 @ 21:37
    So this video is the height of Hypocrisy! Given that this video is all about China and US relations. It is truly about greed on this little blue planet that we live on!!!!!
    • PW
      Phil W.
      14 October 2019 @ 21:54
      every body is spying on every body! How did it come to this!!! It is my children that have to live though this
  • pw
    protima w.
    14 October 2019 @ 20:37
    Great Interview! More of these please RV!
  • pw
    protima w.
    14 October 2019 @ 20:31
    Its really sad that the West has just begun to understand China's real intentions. China has for the longest time been on a territorial expansion, illegally annexing border areas of India, Pakistan, Vietnam and other countries brazenly. Nobody stood up to them. One Belt One Road is an extension of their territorial expansion plans. Build and occupy ports and areas within sovereign nations. Sooner or later it will catch up with them and their minions.
  • wj
    wiktor j.
    14 October 2019 @ 20:09
    This interview needs to be free to watch!
    • JC
      John C.
      26 October 2019 @ 20:13
      its up on YouTube now for free FYI
  • wj
    wiktor j.
    14 October 2019 @ 20:01
    Like I said before China is ruled by a bunch of thugs. Chineese people need to clean house.
    • pw
      protima w.
      14 October 2019 @ 20:40
      Very true. However, hundreds of years of oppression kills your sense of freedom. You will never know what freedom means if you never experienced it!
  • JB
    Jack B.
    14 October 2019 @ 15:19
    Bass and the General apparently believe their fairy tale propaganda. The interview is indicative of the lack of competence and/or integrity of American elites; which led to the rise of China and the demise of the USA by most measures of well being and capability. The tone of the interview is the shrill hysteria of an empire in decline. https://www.unz.com/article/should-we-compete-with-china-can-we/
    • KW
      K W.
      14 October 2019 @ 16:36
      LOL
    • KB
      K B.
      14 October 2019 @ 19:03
      The solution is new elites, and not to surrender to the CCP.
    • jr
      james r.
      15 October 2019 @ 03:13
      Very well, what country are you from? One, I suppose, where the elites are scrupulous and never greedy at all? Sign me up.
    • KB
      K B.
      15 October 2019 @ 17:36
      There are no countries where elites are scrupulous and never greedy, but there are countries where its elites, specifically the business elites, are more aligned with national security apparatus and the hoi polloi. The United States from 1945 up to the 1980s had better, patriotic, elites, who cared more for the country than their contemporary counterparts does now.
    • JC
      John C.
      26 October 2019 @ 20:17
      Dude, the interview is 100% about exactly what you said. US government agencies, corporations, universities, think tanks etc. are all to blame here. Anytihng for filthy lucre seems to be the globalist mantra. Shame on Nike, the NBA, the gazillion China 'think tanks' that take CCP money to look the other way or spread Chinese propaganda, and the Marxist universities who accept all these full-paying Chinese students (let's face it academia probably supports the CCP's vies and methods on many levels). It's a utter mess.
  • jm
    jim m.
    14 October 2019 @ 14:26
    Bass: Your passion and knowledge about China is self evident. The interviewee was terrific.China absolutely has its eyes set on world dominance. We can help ourselves and mitigate the threat by getting smart here at home. In my view, we are accelerating our own demise given our present inability to maintain a Separation of Countervailing Powers, and present, large vulnerability to a Trump second term. at which point Trump becomes a dictator. Our democracy can work were we to take the money out of politics and create the right incentive structures for those in Congress. Campaign Finance Reform and term limits are essential. Further, we have to address our country's vulnerability to cyber attack. This should be a national priority and should shore up our power grid, national financial infrastructure, and election safety. Thanks for a great interview.
  • JB
    Jon B.
    14 October 2019 @ 12:36
    The style of the interview discredits the content. I'm used to RV have an interviewer challenge the assertions and it's up to the guest to validate them. This comes out as Bass making the assertion with Spalding scrabbling around to find the validations. Where's the charts? The evidence? Whilst everything sounds plausible, if extremely distressing and shocking, we need to have them factually backed up. Not just hearsay or rely on short stories from a book
    • NC
      Nic C.
      14 October 2019 @ 17:49
      see if you can book a heart transplant for November!
    • KB
      K B.
      14 October 2019 @ 18:57
      "Where's the charts? The evidence?" Why not do a quick google search or read the book, which is padded with plenty of sources. https://qz.com/1599393/how-researchers-estimate-1-million-uyghurs-are-detained-in-xinjiang/ https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/09/04/757089868/fentanyl-as-a-dark-web-profit-center-from-chinese-labs-to-u-s-streets?t=1571079286598 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Document_Number_Nine https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-china-rights/china-is-harvesting-organs-from-falun-gong-members-finds-expert-panel-idUSKCN1TI236
  • PK
    Paul K.
    14 October 2019 @ 11:59
    George Carlin "My first rule: I don't believe anything the government tells me." This is utter BS. You have two neocons together and expect an objective interview? This interview is utter BS and talking points of the MIC and the pro war hawks. If you believe this crap, you are gullible.
    • KB
      K B.
      14 October 2019 @ 18:04
      So who should we listen to instead? Please name anyone with knowledge of Chinese strategic plans who is not a "neocon". I advise you to read the book "The Hundred Year Marathon" by former Pentagon China expert Michael Pillsbury. Prior to being a China hawk, Pillsbury was a dove who believed all the stories the Chinese told him. After reviewing all available classified and unclassified information on China's grand strategy, Pillsbury became a hawk and now is part of the Trump administration.
    • jr
      james r.
      15 October 2019 @ 03:17
      Well you should believe what I'm telling you: "you don't know what the term 'neo-con' means." ...you bleeding imbecile.
  • AH
    Ahmed H.
    14 October 2019 @ 10:44
    wow! kyle must have lost a tonne on those short RMB trades me thinks
  • wp
    william p.
    14 October 2019 @ 10:35
    Technical Revolution is not just about our lifestyle. It is so pervasive in EVERY aspect of an individuals life. Unfortunately it gives an enormous power to the establishment versus the individual. Personally I do not trust Chinazi simply by looking at what is evident to the eye's of everybody (HongKong!) and the way the CCP is handling that. It tell' s all you need to know. More broadly, today the Technical Revolution taking place is all about the war between the Establishment and the Individual person first. Obviously the stakes are so high that the Establishments of the world will be fighting to get Control on a Global scale. Interesting and at the same time frightening Times. At the end watch out for Dictators, a lot of them out there these days!!
  • DY
    Damian Y.
    14 October 2019 @ 06:19
    Great interview, I always love to hear what Kyle has to say. The more I learn about China the more I realize just how evil the CCP is. Keep up your great work Kyle.
  • DD
    Damian D.
    14 October 2019 @ 05:32
    Hey RealVision.... How about bringing us the other side of this story and show us you are not pushing Kyle agenda.
    • jr
      james r.
      15 October 2019 @ 03:23
      I hear Kim Jong Un might be available if you promise to compensate with a Dennis Rodman autographed jock strap. Seriously man, what possible other side could you want from a totalitarian regime that makes women hold their aborted fetuses up for a picture to remind everyone of the consequences of challenging the controlling elite's policies.
  • JS
    Jerad S.
    14 October 2019 @ 05:20
    I believe the debate stopped at ..... “forced organ donors.” You all who want to keep going on after that are beyond me.
    • JA
      Jesse A.
      15 October 2019 @ 18:16
      https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-forcefully-harvests-organs-detainees-tribunal-concludes-n1018646
  • MJ
    Michael J.
    14 October 2019 @ 04:04
    You better believe China trolls are in Real Vision already. I'm from the Philippines and I'm witnessing first hand how China trolls have encroached in all social media discussions that are even the slightest bit critical of China. Watch out for them in RV!
    • AG
      AlA G.
      14 October 2019 @ 05:02
      We are all paid subscribers. No need for trolling. Such binary world view serves no good to your own investment process.
  • MS
    Michael S.
    14 October 2019 @ 03:31
    Clearly, RV is hostage to Kyle Bass. What a joke. How about if I debate Bass? Remember, just like Fox and CNN and whatever, RV has to have content. I'm a fucking nobody in the investment world (which has nothing to do with this video, btw), and I could debate this numbskull general just as well as anyone, if I'd read his book.
    • MS
      Michael S.
      14 October 2019 @ 04:02
      Now I am going to re-watch, for the third time, before I get thrown off of the platform, that Andrew Lapthorne interview again, which I totally loved and I loved Roger and I of course loved Andrew's backing of my TOT and some other thoughts. Look: I love Kyle, since the "Cognitive Dissonance" paper leaked in 2011, and I love RV, gold and a major deval by all countries is really the only way out of this, in spite of all the nonsense by RV contributors, and of course Anthony Deden.
  • EP
    Eddy P.
    14 October 2019 @ 02:56
    Wow! Wow! Wow! I now understand why Kyle is like a dog with a bone on the China issue. Well done!
  • BM
    Beth M.
    14 October 2019 @ 01:23
    My eyes and heart are now wide open! Thank you Kyle and General Spalding for bringing these issues to the forefront.
  • mp
    michael p.
    14 October 2019 @ 00:59
    Simply put, RV needs better interviewers. This is not the first. You need an interviewer who asks tough questions, not questions that lead the interviewee. You can not have a thought provoking finance website have an interviewer who has the same viewpoint of the guest. It’s like an I banker interviewing Globe.com in 1999. Eyeballs are great etc etc. how does that help subscribers. I have interviewed 100’s of CEOs. The value add is not what you already believe but what you learn that you didn’t know. To take this to the next level, you need that. .
    • FC
      Frederick C.
      14 October 2019 @ 21:27
      100% in agreement with this comment. Having Spalding was great, but it felt like counter-propaganda, not thorough analysis. « I’ve read the Chinese constitution. » So what? Greer is worst even as an interviewer, keeps interrupting the guest to share his views.
  • DC
    Darren C.
    14 October 2019 @ 00:15
    I understand that Kyle is passionate about this topic. It is a little frustrating listening to both the host and guest speaking at the same time and this is one of the 'best' example of this at Real Vision. Please endeavour to have videos where those on camera allow the other person to finish before they speak.
  • SS
    Shanthi S.
    13 October 2019 @ 23:29
    Scary.
  • BF
    Brad F.
    13 October 2019 @ 22:37
    Who are these American billionaires that are CCP puppets?
    • RP
      Raoul P. | Founder
      14 October 2019 @ 03:07
      The Miles Kwok interview gives some names...
    • KB
      K B.
      14 October 2019 @ 18:09
      Sheldon Adelson is one. His Macau casino license is up for renewal which is why he's been pestering Trump to do a deal with Xi.
    • jr
      james r.
      15 October 2019 @ 03:26
      Stansberry crowd for sure
    • jr
      james r.
      15 October 2019 @ 03:29
      Hollywood sold out 15-20 years ago. Notice how Tom Cruise's leather jacket had the Taiwanese and Hong Kong flags on it in 1984? Yeah, there won't be any of that "scandalous revelry" tolerated in next year's sequel.
  • LY
    Leo Y.
    13 October 2019 @ 21:04
    They are Kyle's revenge for betting against China, we now know how much he lost. LOL
  • DD
    Damian D.
    13 October 2019 @ 17:35
    Hey RV, Kyle has interviewed three people with extremely negative views on China, they may be right or they may be wrong, so how about having Kyle interview three people who disagree with these guest. To finish off the series you can have Kyle interview a panel of three knowledgeable quests to act say as judges to discuss the merits and faults with all the guests allegations. I am suggesting this because Kyle seems somewhat subjective regarding China ( he may be right, maybe not ), I for one, would like to know for sure the validity of the assertions made by his three guests. One of the assertions was that Jack Ma would be assassinated by Chinese officials.
    • XS
      Xin S.
      13 October 2019 @ 22:21
      I think Kyle made mistakes at least in two cases. the one is William Felix Browder; the one is Miles Guo. I think he is overconfident about his judgment. I would like to invite Kyle and Armstrong to debate on the Browder case. I really want to know which one is true. Wengui (Miles) Guo is another example. He has lied and abandoned by most Media but Kyle interviewed him without inviting the other side of the story. At least three journalists are filed in Voice of America because of Miles' lie.
  • SS
    Sam S.
    13 October 2019 @ 15:32
    Anybody on board that the Chinese are watching this video? Watching everything?
    • KW
      K W.
      13 October 2019 @ 16:00
      Yep... I hope RV have a secure website.
    • mh
      michael h.
      14 October 2019 @ 23:35
      Look in the comment section. CCP party members attempt to discredit facts stated in this interview. Google any of these topic. I suggest starting by looking up why Falun Gong is outlawed. From there the truth will be revealed
  • SS
    Sam S.
    13 October 2019 @ 15:15
    Climate Change discussion is the biggest fraud on the USA and the World. It's become an effort for governments to take over all businesses and effectively turn countries into mass communist operations. Tax and control everything. The true data concludes that human have not caused weather disruptions and the narrative is completely and utterly false. Cycles of weather, Solar Flares, Sun Spots have always existed and always will. Pollution control is very important, but the industrial revolution was and is not the cause of climate change. China promotes climate change in order to influence young minds that buy into an idea that is not supported by facts. Young and dumb. Been there, done that.
  • JA
    Jordan A.
    13 October 2019 @ 14:54
    Holly Shit
  • SS
    Sam S.
    13 October 2019 @ 14:40
    The "One Road" initiative seems really seems to be "One-Way-Only Road". Wow what a interview. I have an extended family that are Chinese, born the USA to parents that fled Taiwan in WWII, and the "saving face" is more critical to them than anything else. This has caused lies, immoral behavior and family disruption not acceptable to most. The hypocritical part is their desire to falsify impressions to the others outside the family. The bad part is these issues are behind closed doors inside the family as discussions or issues which involve no one else. It's doesn't compute other than control, power and they act like they are far superior to all other people. Other than that, their great. PS> one is a surgeon.
  • CM
    Carlos M.
    13 October 2019 @ 14:25
    the level of hypocrisy and arrogance in this interview is unbelievable. Even though I lived in the US love the people at least at the time, I come from a western country, have nothing in common with the chinese and if half of the things the interview enumerates is true it is appaling STILL part of me is rooting for the chinese as I do believe a lot of the western world too. Americans arrogance in particular since Trump got elected needs to be checked. Kyle bass went from being someone I look forward to hearing his thoughts to someone I blocked in tweeter, fed up of his propaganda and arrogance.
    • KW
      K W.
      13 October 2019 @ 15:51
      I often find people rooting for certain countries simply because they hate the arrogance of Americans. You can hate Trump or whatever you do not like about America. But that does not mean you have to love the Chinese. Things are not mutually exclusive. I do not find this video to be a propaganda or being arrogant.
    • KW
      K W.
      13 October 2019 @ 15:52
      But then again if you love China for what it is on the world stage then good for you. At least we know what kind of values you stand for.
    • CM
      Carlos M.
      13 October 2019 @ 21:28
      KW this detention centers were they put kids of illegal inmigrants isnt it a concentration camp of sorts? guantanamo , the list goes on an on and u preach me of my values ? you just made my point for me.
    • BM
      Beth M.
      14 October 2019 @ 01:30
      Sir, you are lost in space. America gives billions of dollars to nations all over the world. You've been watching to much main stream media.
    • KW
      K W.
      14 October 2019 @ 16:32
      Carlos. There is a difference between people deliberately and illegally cross the border and seek to be detained vs. being forced detaintion due to one's religious believe.
    • CM
      Carlos M.
      15 October 2019 @ 11:51
      hahahaha Beth america gives billions to other nations in order to gain access, it is called soft power. I think you are lost in space if you think taxpayer as an overall give a danm about most places where aid is allocated, not even Puerto Rico received proper aid just to give u a recent example. Regarding illegals KW come on ! detention centers for kids, separate whole families! for what? most of what you called illegals with such a negative connotation are just hard working people looking for a better life they just want to work and live safely. I am not saying let them come but neither should they be treated as hard criminals in particular small children. I find it a good excersice to ensure you have some empathy, to put yourself in someone elses shoes and imagine the decision tree he/she/they had to follow in order to get them where they are, and question yourself if you in the same conditions would have done it differently.
  • KS
    Kathleen S.
    13 October 2019 @ 13:25
    It is easy to see that the CCP trolls are hard at work trying to discredit Kyle Bass (lol - complaint is he interrupts too much) or they are trying to change the subject by bringing up CIA. Amazing how many of them are out there -- you see same garbage on twitter -- they fool nobody. CCP is a murderous disgusting regime that is filled with the same families that advised Mao --- These families murdered 60 Million of their own and today have millions in concentration camps where their organs are sold to the highest bidder. They have no morals and will do ANYTHING for money - truly disturbing. The World needs to BOYCOTT CHINA --- and STAND WITH HONG KONG and FREEDOM.
    • NA
      N A.
      14 October 2019 @ 06:15
      Ouch didn't you just out yourself as a HK troll there? I just need to mention that KB made some serious factual errors in this "interview", most amazing was when he said Hong Konger's democracy was being taken from them by China. I was on the floor laughing. Forgot about all the democracy they had under the Brits. I have nothing against KB, but please RV bring some balance to this argument. Otherwise please do a "USA Watch" week with only Chinese guests.
  • UJ
    Ulf J.
    13 October 2019 @ 07:18
    Great interview, but do you release that what you are talking about is also the USA? China is picking up on what the USA has done since WWII. Controlling the narrative heard about CIA and mockingbird and just recently a Spanish surveillance company that had security cameras at Ecuador Embassy was giving all data to CIA to spy on people who met with Assange and his lawyers this is criminal behavior and against the law. They have tapes when Pamela Anderson is using the restroom in the Embassy. FBI spying on John Lennon is that freedom of speech, What about CIA smuggling drugs to the USA or CIA trying to take out an Elected President Trump. The USA protecting Chinese who beat up protesters on the US soil, what about USS Liberty when Israel killing soldiers of the USA the relatives to the killed sailors was forbidden to talk to the press. Israel and Palestina it is a concentration camp are also controlling the narrative. Epstein pedophilia case involving a former President they control the narrative it is buried. Patriot act is the law taking away yours right ask Susan Lindauer former CIA asset. Kyle should read the book confession of an economic hitman by John Perkins. The World is losing trust and is tired of the USA not showing respect to other countries. It is not only in Hong Kong there is protesting but the media is controlling the narrative there is still Yellow west protesting in France. What about the USA involvement in Hong Kong demonstrations it was starting as a genuine protesting but was it hijacked? The USA is losing trust that's why Russia was forced to move towards China this was a grand mistake and Europe lost a lot from it.
    • KS
      Kathleen S.
      13 October 2019 @ 13:13
      This is about CHINA and CCP ----
    • JS
      John S.
      13 October 2019 @ 16:41
      Indeed...one topic at a time please. America's many wrongs in no way alter the reality which is the CCP. A stark difference is that we can speak openly about ours. People who are "tired" of American may say what they please based on whatever they believe to be true. Speaking for myself, I'm tired of people bitching and moaning about how evil we are but grateful that these terminally unhappy people can say whatever they please without becoming non persons or having organs ripped out and sold at a nice profit.
    • bm
      brian m.
      13 October 2019 @ 18:39
      The only thing you can compare the US to, is other hegemonic powers. Which other hegemonic power has allowed the likes of Germany, Japan and South Korea to flourish after being defeated? The treaty of Brest litovsk doesnt compare favourably.
    • BM
      Beth M.
      14 October 2019 @ 01:21
      Hey pal, we don't people in prison camps for their religion. Get a clue! Your just a communist troll.
    • UJ
      Ulf J.
      14 October 2019 @ 20:24
      "John S. America's many wrongs in no way alter the reality which is the CCP". That is true the reality is that the Chinese people are almost 20% of the world population so it is a thin line the Communist party has to walk on so they don't get overrun by the people. Everything goes in a cycle and every Empire and also Government do the same mistake over and over again that's why China is on the rise again. The Bottom line is where do we invest money in the West or Asia with 4,4 billion people.
  • AG
    AlA G.
    13 October 2019 @ 02:52
    I hope RV can have a chance to interview the Singaporean Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, who is a true statesman and can provide an objective and balanced view over the US-China topic.
    • CH
      Chris H.
      13 October 2019 @ 03:16
      Do you really think that Hsien Loong could speak freely about China even after he has stopped being prime minister?
    • AG
      AlA G.
      13 October 2019 @ 04:05
      Yes I do. But if your definition of speaking freely is just lashing out, sure, only Kyle Bass is the most qualified person to talk about this.
    • bm
      brian m.
      13 October 2019 @ 18:41
      Great Idea, He is a bit like his Dad....and his dad was beyond compare
  • CR
    Charlie R.
    13 October 2019 @ 02:33
    Great discussion! Such an important secular frame! RV should promote it outside the paywall!
  • yd
    yon d.
    13 October 2019 @ 02:08
    Awesome interview. And.....through 'protecting your data', how will the US not, in the end, become the very thing that they wish to not become? "Controlling your data to protect you", sounds so ironic. Great interview!! Leaves so many more questions to consider.
  • BM
    Balraj M.
    13 October 2019 @ 01:26
    Mr. Bass please stop interrupting your guest, we know you know a lot about China but the constant interruptions came off across as rude.
  • CH
    Chris H.
    13 October 2019 @ 01:24
    Can we get a Brad Garlinghouse from Ripple interview FFS.
  • MP
    Michael P.
    12 October 2019 @ 23:35
    Wow. What a great ending.. ' we are able to be influenced to such a degree that we can think our neighbor is our enemy.' I dont want to sound too conspiratorial but I can 100% see the truth in that. Think of the wars that have ostensibly been started due to the media and what we believe as a society to be 'true'.
  • CK
    Colin K.
    12 October 2019 @ 21:37
    I find it incredible how many people are willing to accept a pro China narrative and overlook these disgusting practices in the face of well documented views. At some point people need to start making up their minds about weather dealing with the morally devoid enterprising system of the CCP is acceptable or not.
  • WC
    William C.
    12 October 2019 @ 20:08
    I watch every video with Kyle in it. please keep them coming.
  • DS
    Dan S.
    12 October 2019 @ 19:26
    Kissinger is an idiot. Phase out trade in stages.
  • RT
    Rex T.
    12 October 2019 @ 19:12
    I don’t know why RV so worried about making sure all the positive comments about the interviewer get the most likes... it’s not like he cares what we think or reads our comments in detail :)
  • CQ
    Colin Q.
    12 October 2019 @ 18:50
    Man, some unsubstantiated bullshit going on in this. Also words like “evil” being used. It’s subjective crap. This guy is promoting his book. Could have saved us all some time and taken an paid ad from him. RV is really beginning to miss the mark.
    • SS
      Sohail S.
      12 October 2019 @ 22:33
      If organ harvesting is occurring by harvesting the organs of "dissident" thinkers, and this is occurring with the approval and knowledge of the CCP, then why would evil be the wrong description?
  • JF
    John F.
    12 October 2019 @ 17:33
    Space X's network is the perfect platform to combat the 5G threat. Especially if they innovate past the 5G level.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 19:15
      Hopefully it’s not the same network Lightsquared used before (NOAA) shut them down.
  • MH
    Michael H.
    12 October 2019 @ 17:32
    Simply amazing! It's up to us to propagate this message and get people knowing these dangers. Great Stuff!
  • RT
    Rex T.
    12 October 2019 @ 14:21
    Thank god the Chinese restrict foreign access to their market! They saved western investors a widow maker short JGB trade 2.0.
  • PJ
    Peter J.
    12 October 2019 @ 13:54
    Kyle has a fantastic intellect and I really enjoyed his early RVTV interviews. However, the more recent ones on China (and the CCP specifically) where he has participated as interviewer have IMO moved toward being overtly politicised, with the intent of demonising the CCP rather than evaluating the economic / financial problems arising from the political and economic relations between China and the ROW (but more specifically the US). I am no fan of the CCP but there are many other significant states with human rights issues, where both these and China’s failings on race and IPR theft have been well covered previously. Would love to see Kyle back on RVTV where the discussion didn’t have China or the CCP mentioned at all.
    • PJ
      Peter J.
      12 October 2019 @ 13:55
      Race = Trade
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 14:25
      So it’s a trade to the bottom not a race to the bottom? Makes sense.
    • CC
      Choz C.
      12 October 2019 @ 16:32
      100% agreed. Sad to see him destroy his credibility.
    • TE
      Tito E.
      12 October 2019 @ 16:56
      China's top down system is awful, many suffer, will likely fall apart and all very messy. Kinda obvious to anyone with any sense though. I'm apolitical, but this just sounds like propaganda to me. People should generally stick to their areas of expertise.
  • EN
    Eric N.
    12 October 2019 @ 12:53
    So the US are the unchallenged "number one" for decades, tolerant with a great majority of countries, sometimes a little over the top (see Yugoslavia, Iraq or Lybia amongst many, many others) to make a point or to set an example. One day they realize they aren't number one any more, and the one topping them off the podium is of course as evil as the nazis - as stated in this interview. The US president changes the narrative, and suddenly there is something literally looking like the nazi holocaust? This seems like an incredibly convenient narrative. There is no doubt in my mind that any government is at its core rotten, to suggest that the US have a moral compass however, is fantastic hypocrisy and hubris. There is something about China which I prefer over the US, and that is that they aren't truly global, they don't care as much about changing other countries' system for an idea of how the everyone else is supposed to look like. They don't export their idealism as much, rather they want it realized internally. With China at the top, I expect less dumb mistakes a country as young as the US was prone to make. And I expect the Chinese population to resist once the government shows its face, as they have countless times in the past. I honestly can't wait for the US to leave the stage, and if it's just for the unquantifiable hypocrisy emanating from that part of the world to disappear.
    • EK
      Edward K.
      12 October 2019 @ 16:15
      The narrative of "American Exceptionalism" has been pernicious. Tulsi is right - stop regime change and needless military-industrial intervention in our political economy. Conversely China is a tumor subsidized by American greed, naivete, and hubris. This is a monster of our design and now we reap the "dragon's teeth".
    • DB
      Darko B.
      13 October 2019 @ 01:55
      The US dropped depleted uranium bombs in Serbia and Iraq for civilians and children to deal with. The US isn't what it was 40-50 years ago. It's lost what tiny moral compass it had long ago and has been replaced by Marxist / corporate sycophant corrupt elite. Is China a threat....no doubt, but I'm not sure it's any better the what we've got. At the end of the day it's all going to end that same way. The average man on the street will need to fight and die for his freedom.
    • DB
      Darko B.
      13 October 2019 @ 01:57
      *worse than what we've got
    • PW
      Paul W.
      14 October 2019 @ 02:38
      Having first-hand experience with Chinese incursions into Africa, I am not sure I can agree that "they aren't truly global", at least in intent. For the time being, their power is constrained by the reality that the yuan is not a global reserve currency but I don't accept for a moment that they don't have global ambitions. I think they have just chosen different mechanisms - you don't need to export idealism when you can export carfentyl instead.
  • RK
    Richard K.
    12 October 2019 @ 12:36
    Shekels Kyle? Not dollars. Not money. Shekels. Hmmm .
    • SS
      Shanthi S.
      13 October 2019 @ 23:25
      Glad someone pulled him up on this.
  • RS
    Robert S.
    12 October 2019 @ 12:36
    way too many interruptions of your guest. I've heard KB's pov on the subject many times and was interested to hear his guest, but all the interruptions were irritating.
    • yd
      yon d.
      13 October 2019 @ 02:16
      Hummmmm...interesting, but I didn't notice any interruptions. Will watch again for that.
  • SU
    Shakeel U.
    12 October 2019 @ 12:25
    Kyle Bass comes on Real Vision every time he can find someone to talk negative about China.
  • SU
    Shakeel U.
    12 October 2019 @ 12:21
    There's a fault with the thumbs up and thumbs down, if you click on one the other thumb automatically goes up. I'm not sure if this is a technology bug or part of Kyle Bass anti Chinese proganda movement.
    • GB
      Gary B.
      15 October 2019 @ 17:37
      Must be a bug with your computer. I click a lot of thumbs and thumbs down and have never had the opposite thumb go up.
  • PR
    Paweł R.
    12 October 2019 @ 10:49
    Kyle kept interrupting Gen Spalding way too often. The end result is I'm not sure to what extent I have heard Gen Spalding's opinions or Kyle's opinions in a conversation with Gen Spalding.
  • JM
    Jason M.
    12 October 2019 @ 09:31
    Great interview. Some of these comments, are PLA. Control narrative at all costs.
  • AW
    Abigail W.
    12 October 2019 @ 08:51
    Kyle Bass is known for his trade and agenda on China. Putting him in the important role as interviewer make me seriously reassess the neutrality and intention of this channel. There are enough bananas out there, I am seeking the facts and views of experts here. PS. Really nice to see from the comments that many RV watchers are able to question what has been communicated.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 13:52
      Hopefully he’s not had that trade on for too long. Unlike long risk positions shorts get bigger as they keep going against you :)
    • dn
      duy n.
      16 October 2019 @ 20:08
      He is a professional. He took off this China trade just before it crossed 7. If you follow him you would have known that. Unlike Peking James, he is more interested in the USA then making money off the trade. He did say that he was still short the HK dollars.
    • dn
      duy n.
      16 October 2019 @ 20:20
      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-14/kyle-bass-exits-yuan-short-bet-just-as-trade-war-really-heats-up “I don’t have a vested interest in China’s currency anymore,” the Dallas-based hedge fund manager told Bloomberg Television in an interview Tuesday. “I think this is such an important moment in time for U.S. national security that all the work that I’ve done over the last seven years is moving more into the political sphere than the financial sphere.” I think you have an agenda not Kyle.
  • RT
    Rex T.
    12 October 2019 @ 06:12
    But final point honestly.... If I had as much money ask Kyle I’d also rock up to the interview unprepared. A career journalist would get fired if they interviewed like this a couple times. I can imagine if that happened to Kyle he’d pull a Tony Montana scene on RV and buy them out.
  • LL
    Lo L.
    12 October 2019 @ 06:05
    Republican propaganda tv? Stick to experts not politicians
  • JK
    James K.
    12 October 2019 @ 05:43
    Sadly had to stop watching about halfway through the interview because Kyle would not stop interrupting and talking over the guest. The format of having a guest interview a guest IMO is not the greatest; the qualities of a good host are not common among most people. The ability to ask questions, and then sit for possibly 10 minutes without interjecting, blurting stuff out, occasionally clarifying things that aren't clear etc. It's obvious that somebody knows how to host well because when the host (very infrequently) interrupts, it's to clarify something that you immediately thought "what does xyz mean". Information was good, just too hard for me to continue to watch... . .
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 14:01
      Boom! I’m just annoyed I said the same thing an my net score is -2 and yours is +2. It’s sooooo unfair.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 14:02
      Ok... I should remove my thumbs up on your comment to make it closer :)
    • yd
      yon d.
      13 October 2019 @ 02:22
      I appreciate your comment; but I didn't really notice the interruptions. I'll watch again and keep your comments in mind. RealVision must be commended for keeping such a fair and open comment feature. Love the comments and feedback!
  • RT
    Rex T.
    12 October 2019 @ 04:39
    This interview began promisingly and progressively got worse like the discussion does with my mates down the pub with each round. The interviewer made this video twice longer than needed with his input. The interviewer: 1) Seems to suggest this is the only book ever written on China. It gives the impression he flicked through it just before the interview or didn’t understand it. Nothing made me want to buy this book. 2) Please put your ego aside for 30 mins and let the guest speak without speaking over him. Imagine if an Army General started to give you their views on fund management at your host. 3) It’s not Chinese censorship of the USA power the Gen is alluding to early in then interview. The Chinese simply adopted the (same) 40 year US diplomacy etiquette taught to the General as a diplomat which seem to work well... I wouldn’t be the first time China copies the US and (hopefully for Americans) not the last. Rest assured, your interview style is at low risk of plagiarism. 4) The Chinese aren’t shipping tonnes of fentanyl via Alibaba express. It goes via Mexico through the same cartel networks that have trafficked crack, cocaine, heroin and marijuana over the past 30 years. This isn’t my opinion but the DEA’s. Half the US states have legalised weed and taxing it... so the cartels changed the product to the latest high illegal margin addictive substance. Fentanyl is similar to what US doctors prescribe like candy and perhaps even cheaper. To China this is the equivalent of blaming a gun manufacturer for gun deaths in Texas. You started it by sending them Coca Cola and McDonald. 5) When the interviewee uses a lot of technical jargon your job as interviewer is to ask him to clarify definitions for the benefit of viewers. The audience is supposed to be smart, they don’t need to be told what a short story means (it has a beginning and end). Fentanyl, however, isn’t as obvious. 6) Censorship is alive well on the US tech platforms as well... upload this video to YouTube and in a couple days google are likely to call you up to request you remove the word “trump” in the expression “at some point in time money won’t trump...” because it’s classed as political genre content and the word Trump was used. If you refuse the video gets a low relevance ranking (without you knowing) and may even get removed. Just cause someone used a verb that coincides with the US Presidents surname on an unrelated topic. This is from first hand experience! 7) Non-techy middle aged men talking about tech is like teenage kids hearing their parents talk about sex. Like you just ruined my life... I hate you both. The mainstream media has covered this topic extensive its real experts... no value added. 8) From how the 5G network is described every mobile phone company in the world is a short... “the phone is going away!” Someone at RV should have cut this part out. My impression is neither know what exactly 5G is, which shouldn’t shock anyone... it’s not available yet to consumers On a more positive note, it appears the trade talks went well today! Americans can continue to buy their China manufactured TVs without paying higher tariffs. And the even better news is American personnel stationed in China won’t miss his seasons NBA and be forced to leave home. It’s a shame UberEats seized operating in China... Now all the other expats are also going to find out fortune cookies aren’t really Chinese when the local rival operators don’t include them with their meals.
    • JM
      John M.
      12 October 2019 @ 16:45
      Re point #4 Are you comparing Fentanyl with Weed?? How many people are dying from use of Marijuana? Please be serious.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      13 October 2019 @ 01:56
      No I’m not comparing the two. Weed is weed :) But you need to think of the traffickers as a large business enterprise that had almost a monopoly in distribution of illegal marijuana into the US which went away as the US started to produce and tax it’s own marijuana. Who is going to call a shady dealer for weed in California when you get an high quality Apple store experience at the shop? Like any large enterprise the cartels need revenues to stay in business and for that they need to find another illegal and highly profitable substance to hook their customer. It’s not so much the pot heads become crack heads (or whatever fentanyl addicts are ref to) but availability of a new high. Since the US has a high case of opioid addition from over prescription (sorry but Americans just love their quick pill solutions) they pick the weak spot... selling methamphetamines and fentanyl to the opioid addicts. In 10 years it will be some other highly addictive high margin illegal substance.... supply creates its own demand. Clarification: Mexican cartelA does not equated all MexicanS are drug dealers as the US President likes to imply.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      13 October 2019 @ 02:06
      As to how many people die from smoking MJ? The honest answer is I don’t know. I don’t think it’s hardly any except those who were unlucky with the vapes recently. But nobody dies from smoking a ciggy either... they die from the health diseases caused by prolonged smoking. I’m sure in 20 years time we’ll have a better understanding of the consequence. If the organised drug cartels didn’t exist to begin with it would make things far simpler. I’ve personally never smoked or seen the point, but I love a good joint myself now and then. :)
    • PW
      Paul W.
      14 October 2019 @ 02:46
      Several of your points don't appear to be fact-based. Two in particular - while some fetanyl does indeed arrive by traditional smuggling routes, an astounding amount is delivered via the US Postal Service but in any event, it is the much more potent carfenanyl that represents a real threat and it is almost exclusively manufactured in China at this point. Second, your point about 5G is off - the mobile phone networks don't particularly care about the delivery device - they will own the 5G network and make their major money on the transport of data plus they won't be subsidizing the purchase of thousand-dollar handsets. I think that the general had the right sense of where 5G is going - it is going to be a device-agnostic platform. Not in the short term, but over time.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      14 October 2019 @ 14:03
      Paul, you make great points. I was aware of the US postal delivery but according to DEA it’s cartel networks. If that’s report is false then I stand corrected (not impossible). By mobile phone company I should have been more specific and said manufacturers of mobile phones. I doubt mobile networks operates are entirely agnostic to 5G I’m any case since it requires high capex with each generation. The Gen seems to suggest a world where IoT does away with handsets whereas the two can happily coincide. Your comments are factually very sound. Thanks.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      14 October 2019 @ 14:07
      Here is the DEA report https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2018-11/DIR-032-18%202018%20NDTA%20%5Bfinal%5D%20low%20resolution11-20.pdf I must admit I haven’t read that bit till not but the information I had came from a NJ DEA head interview shortly after the report was released.
  • BA
    Bruce A.
    12 October 2019 @ 04:32
    It is important to bring these issues to light. It's just as important to understand that while the average civilian may be fairly innocent to the interplay of commerce, politics, nationalism, imperialism/foreign intervention, you can be sure that there are plenty of top level US administration officials that are well versed in the 'dark arts'. The US collective leadership has had a good 200 years or so of experience. Study the history of US foreign interventions and you will find a long and interesting list (both covert and overt). The narrative has always been managed by govt to suit it's objectives and the truth was often suppressed or obfuscated for long periods only to emerge after documents were declassified years later or political sensitivities changed.
    • WC
      Wilson C.
      12 October 2019 @ 05:53
      i watched the movie American Made with Tom Cruise. not usually my cup of tea and not sure how true it is but wow, a look at CIA ops in South America back then. as you mention, only years later when documents declassified do you know what happened.
  • JM
    John M.
    12 October 2019 @ 04:20
    USA couldn't afford to invest in its infrastructure & basic research, i.e., human resources but somehow managed to find roughly $6 or$7 trillion dollars to blow stuff up in the Middle East. USA has also spent trillions of dollars building the world's greatest armed forces (& military bases network around the world) but that probably won't be relevant in the national contest with China. Not a great start!
  • LA
    Liping A.
    12 October 2019 @ 04:12
    China is immoral thugs who sold everything American want to buy cheap, but wait a second, isn't fentanyl just an ingredients of painkiller medicines which many US phamasutical companies drugged their own fellow citizens for almost 20 years for profits?
  • TF
    Tamara F.
    12 October 2019 @ 03:58
    Brilliant, thank you. Please find ways to share with wider audience. This message is too important to keep behind a paywall.
  • hb
    huey b.
    12 October 2019 @ 03:29
    Thanks for adding clarity on these subjects.
  • JW
    Ju W.
    12 October 2019 @ 02:48
    If US ever has the guts to face its domestic challenges (wealth redistribution, infrastructure building, education for the poor and anti intellectualism for example), it will never be overtaken by any outsiders. Stop externalising your problems by blaming on others - the old communist China tried it in the 50-70s and only realized it was just as laughable as North Koreans these days. Totally persecution mania. The best way of beating your competitors is to take the hard path and get the best potential out of yourself.
    • AS
      Adrian S.
      12 October 2019 @ 04:05
      Yes valid points. But there trade war and problems with China still needs to be faced and overcome. The global supply chain still needs to be realigned to weakened PRC in the long run lest they challenge us militarily with their new found wealth.
    • PB
      Patrick B.
      12 October 2019 @ 05:10
      That is true, but it doesn't take away from the atrocities described here, or the sheer evil of the CCP.
    • WW
      Wade W.
      15 October 2019 @ 02:44
      Don’t forget the US owning the printing press for the worlds universal currency. When the US starts losing anything ... ie. world control ... they demonize the other party. So typical. Lol
  • SP
    Stephane P.
    12 October 2019 @ 02:05
    I am falling off my chair. I thought China was just manufacturing cheap Toys. Barely heard about industrialized Concentration camps, Crematorium, and Organ trading taken from live inmates.....wow. Are you sure about that ?
    • AS
      Adrian S.
      12 October 2019 @ 04:06
      Do more research and ask about the Uighurs.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 04:47
      Yes, I’m sure about that! I was written inside the fortune cookie which I got after I demanded my right as a customer to a free fortune cookie after my meal.
  • JL
    James L.
    12 October 2019 @ 00:56
    Please put this one up on YouTube. It's really important for non-subscribers.
    • RP
      RUCHIR P.
      12 October 2019 @ 02:26
      I second that
    • JM
      John M.
      12 October 2019 @ 03:26
      Yes please post for the public.
    • PB
      Patrick B.
      12 October 2019 @ 05:07
      Absolutely!
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 05:32
      Assuming it doesn’t get flagged by YouTube algorithms as suspect political content because someone used the verb “to trump” in the discussion. If you bypassing that, what are the chances some YouTuber (kid) reaching 50 min on something other than fortnite streaming? And for that unicorn non-fortnite YouTuber that stays on that long to hear the two of them talk tech, it will be like the teenager that stayed up well past bed time hoping for babe station but instead overheard their parents have sex.
    • MK
      Mike K.
      12 October 2019 @ 18:56
      Agreed - needs to be public - put it on youtube.
    • JS
      Johannes S.
      15 October 2019 @ 05:12
      RV will do better not to! It will risk its reputation as an independant source of financial and investment infomation.
  • JL
    James L.
    12 October 2019 @ 00:52
    Real eye opener! Kyle please bring this discussion forward with General Spalding. I am buying his book and appreciate what you both are doing to create awareness of the CCP dogma.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 05:34
      I hope that guy researches he stocks better than his interview topics.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 05:34
      *his trades
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 05:40
      If that interview convinced you to buy the book I’ve got some Lebanese bonds I think you should look at...
  • JK
    James K.
    12 October 2019 @ 00:40
    Just fascinating.... Please make this available on public YouTube so fe can spread the message ....
  • BA
    Bruce A.
    12 October 2019 @ 00:33
    Kyle was the wrong person to conduct the interview. There is a lot of valuable information here that needs a response by the free world but the interview descended into hyperbole and worse when the opium problem in the US and the job losses where attributed to an evil conspiring warmongering enemy. Drug trade and globalization are more complex than that. It is disappointing when an important message loses some credibility due to an over zealous interviewer. Still I'm glad to have had the opportunity to watch. Thanks RV.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 06:49
      It was the wrong topic to interview him on. A career army general should talk about the army. He was about to retired by instead took a 2 year job in diplomacy based in China for 2 years. He was given 1 year to learn mandarin and they trained him in diplomacy. Fair to say his role was probably more “strategic” than “mission critical”. Who knows, maybe CIA had exhausted all the covers... May as well interviewed him on the history of the various dialects spoken in China.
    • sm
      sam m.
      12 October 2019 @ 09:14
      I am not sure how anyone who has followed realvision wouldn't understand the argument laid out in "The Trap" and "The Reply" about international trade but ymmv.
  • MC
    Mario C.
    11 October 2019 @ 23:09
    When launching the video, I get the below: This video is either unavailable or not supported in this browser Error Code: MEDIA_ERR_SRC_NOT_SUPPORTED Technical details : The media could not be loaded, either because the server or network failed or because the format is not supported. Have you been hacked, or experiencing tech issues?
    • MC
      Mario C.
      11 October 2019 @ 23:15
      Sorry, ignore, my bad. (had changed my chrome settings to stop all these autoplay videos from websites like bloomberg.com). Reverting the settings, it s working all good.
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 05:35
      No you’ve been spared :)
    • RT
      Rex T.
      12 October 2019 @ 05:36
      No you’ve been spared. You must be on Raoul’s list.
  • TO
    Tal O.
    11 October 2019 @ 22:13
    Atrocities in Tibet have been going in for more than half a century. Organ harvesting from Falun Gong followers has been going for decades. Uighurs have been struggling for independence for decades. The reason all of this coming out is that now America is in danger as well. Bass' comments are a little over the top, but Otto is right, we have got to stop selling out at some point. As Churchill said "Americans will do the right thing, eventually, after they have tried everything else first" (or something like that).
    • MS
      Michael S.
      12 October 2019 @ 02:23
      Yeah, but our freedom-loving friends in Saudi Arabia have actually flown planes into large buildings, they don't want to hear about human rights, BUT Bass isn't shorting them.
  • AL
    Andrew L.
    11 October 2019 @ 21:38
    Going deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole...
  • AM
    Alison M.
    11 October 2019 @ 21:35
    So Chinese are sending mercenaries and thugs to America to keep people quiet. Scary.
    • KS
      Kathleen S.
      11 October 2019 @ 22:48
      I have met some of these people -- it sounds crazy, but at my gold league I have watched Chinese People buy drinks over and over and over again at a public golf course. Two Chinese woman in paticular and most Americans never questioned this and took the drinks --- until I pointed out, " dont you think this is weird" and then they all started agreeing, but they didn't understand why. Maybe NBA and their reaction to Pro Hong Kong tweet will wake them up.
  • PF
    Patrick F.
    11 October 2019 @ 21:01
    As always, very interesting interview, Kyle.
  • NC
    Nic C.
    11 October 2019 @ 20:51
    boring
    • AM
      Alison M.
      11 October 2019 @ 21:34
      You weren't listening then.
  • RK
    Roger K.
    11 October 2019 @ 20:44
    I wonder how many #CCPAgents will be here to defend their pay masters: the evil , inhumane commie regime which gives very little or no value to human lives as they have so many people 1.3. Billion. If their own people has cheap or no value at all , what about the rest of world!
    • AG
      AlA G.
      13 October 2019 @ 03:07
      So if a person does not agree with Kyle Bass or this interview, he or she is a CCP Agent. You call this democracy and freedom of speech?
  • TS
    Tor S.
    11 October 2019 @ 20:30
    Bad shit. The last part "we need to protect your data" You all understand what he is saying, the general? He is about to fight fire with fire here. Putting our sovereignty on the table, in the end house wins, one way or the other - one house or the other. While waiting i'm gonna make a killing in the shipping market. Cheers!
    • DO
      David O.
      12 October 2019 @ 01:06
      How do we protect our data? How about the blockchain?
  • SP
    Sat P.
    11 October 2019 @ 20:15
    Wow, amazing discussion. The live organ harvesting was disgraceful. Great work from RV
  • TE
    Tito E.
    11 October 2019 @ 19:59
    Israel, that paragon of universal human rights, in a position to criticise China?
    • TE
      Tito E.
      11 October 2019 @ 20:03
      ALL nation states dirty
    • AM
      Alison M.
      11 October 2019 @ 21:17
      Yes, they are, because Israel has not genocided millions of people. Moreover, all of Israel's neighbors have promised to wipe them off the face of the Earth. They are on defense everyday and yet the Arab oil countries manage to make Israel look like the aggressor, when people are waging jihad every single day.
    • MS
      Michael S.
      12 October 2019 @ 02:24
      Bass isn't shorting them.
  • CW
    Casey W.
    11 October 2019 @ 19:54
    Wow, what an extraordinary and enlightening interview. Many thanks to Kyle and to the General.
  • GN
    Griffin N.
    11 October 2019 @ 19:49
    This is fucked up! Thanks for bringing it to the world
  • FF
    Farouk F.
    11 October 2019 @ 19:31
    Kyle... for the love of whatever is dear to you... STOP INTERRUPTING THE GUY YOU ARE TRYING TO INTERVIEW.
    • NC
      Nic C.
      11 October 2019 @ 20:50
      yeah, Kyle just using it as a platform to get his own POV across - nothing really new here
    • MS
      Michael S.
      12 October 2019 @ 02:26