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Ben Harburg, founder, and managing partner at MSA Capital, has been at the intersection of the U.S., China, and emerging markets for years. He joins Maggie Lake to share the highs and lows — and the lessons learned — of a career focused on China tech, Asian private markets, and the Middle East.