An adventure like crypto is bound to attract talent from all corners. In a far-ranging conversation, Michael Creadon, a former journalist with Bloomberg, and David Micley, once a researcher at Ray Dalio’s Bridgewater Associates, describe their journeys into crypto and bounce ideas off one another about where the space is headed. Creadon is now president of DeFi Developers at Inveniam, while Micley is director of sales and client relations at Floating Point Group. They come together to make sense of the current market. Regulation is an issue of central importance to their respective outlooks. Notably, though he disagrees with him on many issues, Micley is hoping for a positive, collaborative discourse with SEC Chair Gary Gensler. Meanwhile, Creadon sheds light on the “tokenization of everything” revolution and shares what his firm looks for when evaluating the utility of digital assets. Filmed on January 26, 2022.