Raoul Pal finally welcomes Balaji Srinivasan for a long-in-the-making conversation about nation-states, the internet, the metaverse, cryptocurrency, and more… a lot more. You say you want a “deep dive”? Well, here are three hours of pure insight destined to be a Real Vision classic. Balaji and Raoul push us to think harder about and further into the future, not just to see what the world could be but also how we can shape what’s to come. The “network states” Balaji notes are already rising across the internet, and conditions are coiling in a way that makes proliferation of globalized communities aligned by shared mission and vision and organized by their own currencies virtually inevitable. And the final phase is recognition of a new form of nation-state. It’s at least as fascinating as it is mind-blowing, so profound you’ll need to set aside six hours to watch and absorb it. Recorded on August 11, 2022