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Pal: There’s Going to be a Gap Before We Get Another Stimulus

Your Real Vision Daily Briefing for May 15, 2020

Raoul Pal joins Ash Bennington to update viewers on his “Unfolding” thesis about the trajectory of the COVID crisis and its effects on the economy.

  • This recession, like other bear markets, is following the pattern of a sharp move down, then a retracement, and finally a rolling over.
  • The Fed’s stimulus is not enough to paper over the cracks in terms of cash flows in the private sector for more than three months and there will be a gap before we see another one.
  • Massively indebted companies with BBB ratings are the market to watch, as downgrades to junk status could have tremendous knock-on effects.


Get the latest information as we analyze the next phase of our new global economy and discuss what we think is to come.

Bond yields fell a little last week, volatility is coming down, and markets were trying to move around but not really getting anywhere this week, Raoul Pal said during today’s Real Vision Daily Briefing.

Pal said that the hope narrative is somewhat fading, and we’re likely moving toward the final phase of his framework, which reflects the common bear market pattern of a sharp move down, a retracement, and then finally a rolling over.

Pal calls this final phase the insolvency phase, which begins as the reality takes shape that growth won’t get positive enough for people and companies to cover their debts. 

This real economic damage has hardly been mitigated by the Fed’s stimulus, which isn’t really enough to paper over the cracks for more than three months, he said. 

“The world has set itself up for a big cliff and we’re getting to the end. Then what?” he said. “There’s going to be a gap before we get another stimulus. That’s a big gap in markets, a big gap in demand, and that’s going to scare the hell out of people.”

While the insolvency phase takes hold, Pal said he is watching the BBB market in particular. Corporations like GE, Ford, AT&T, and GM have been wasting capital buying back their own shares and issuing debt instead of putting it to productive use and now they’re massively indebted. If any of them get downgraded to junk, everyone will have to scramble for capital and share prices will go to zero, he said.