Real Vision senior crypto editor Ash Bennington sits down with Matthew Roszak, co-founder and chairman of Bloq, to discuss his early days of crypto, Bloq, Vesper Finance, DeFi, and the future of the crypto ecosystem. Always enamored by entrepreneurs who felt they could change the world with their apps, Roszak never experienced that until he found crypto and bitcoin as it represented the intersection of tech, finance, economic freedom, and decentralization. In Bitcoin's early days, its narrative was tainted by one of malicious activity, drugs, and the silk road, but Roszak saw an opportunity in the space when very few did. Filmed May 12th, 2021. Key Learnings: The market opportunity in DeFi is gargantuan—software is eating the world, and DeFi is going to eat banks. Accessibility is being increased, and with that, systems are becoming more powerful. Roszak alongside Vesper Finance is aiming to build a system that simplifies that experience of getting into DeFi and building yield. Looking towards the future, Roszak sees the idea of tokenization as a powerful tool that will reshape governance, give power back to the individual, and change industries and human behavior.