Visa shocked everyone recently by buying a CryptoPunk. Many scratched their heads as to why. The man behind it was Cuy Sheffield, Vice President and Head of Crypto at Visa, who has been on a multi-year journey building support for blockchain and crypto at the company. The CryptoPunk purchase was just part of that journey. Visa is fully immersed in the future of the transfer of value—be it retail payments, wallets, or B2B. The opportunities for Visa to adapt and thrive are endless. But Cuy is not just the crypto leader at Visa—he is also a thought leader in the space. Raoul and Cuy enjoy their blue-sky brainstorming of ideas and thoughts as to where this is all going, what it means, and even how to think about investing when culture is the new asset class. They could have spoken for hours and probably would have gotten more and more animated! We'll need a second installment... Enjoy this little piece of Real Vision Crypto magic! Recorded on November 16, 2021.