An understated player in pioneering the path of nations is geography—it has touched everything from geopolitical affairs and national prosperity to history and our collective future. “The land on which we live has always shaped us,” wrote British journalist and renowned author Tim Marshall in “Prisoners of Geography.” It is what can make or break a nation and what the world’s leaders struggle to break free from. Brent Johnson, CEO of Santiago Capital, sits down with Marshall to discuss the role geography played in the U.S. and whether internal divisions and culture wars will spell the end of the empire. He also discusses the role of geography in European history and the divisions between them, how the flat plains of eastern Europe and northern Asia influence Russia’s decisions, and the geographic challenges facing China. Recorded on November 5, 2021.