Beat the Downturn with Deep Value

Published on
June 4th, 2018
30 minutes

Investing in a New World: The Rise of China & State Capitalism

Beat the Downturn with Deep Value

The Expert View ·
Featuring Desmond Kinch

Published on: June 4th, 2018 • Duration: 30 minutes

Des Kinch of Overseas Asset Management is an advocate of deep value investing. Since he believes that valuations for bonds and U.S. equities are at extreme levels, Des has gone hunting for opportunities in Asia and Europe, where he searches for deeply discounted and often illiquid investments that could weather a downturn in global markets. Filmed on May 14, 2018 in Grand Cayman.


  • TB
    Tad B.
    3 July 2018 @ 13:47
    Excellent interview.... I remember his last one too. This is exactly the type of stuff I want to see. 👍🏻
  • CR
    Cristian R.
    5 June 2018 @ 09:16
    How long does everyone have to complain about the music for you to do something about it?
    • JL
      John L.
      6 June 2018 @ 03:47
      For Heaven's Sake, stop complaining, everyone. The intro / ending music is catchy and cool. I for one like it. It certainly sounds a whole lot better than the competition ( ie the tired and boring intro music on CNBC and Bloomberg )
    • GB
      Gold B.
      7 June 2018 @ 00:54
    • GB
      Gold B.
      7 June 2018 @ 00:54
      Can't edit comment. I mean I agree with the complaint about the terrible music.
    • PD
      Pat D.
      13 June 2018 @ 07:56
      I think the music is quite cool.
    • MM
      Mario M.
      15 June 2018 @ 04:16
      Music is great, can I buy a CD of it. :-p
    • TM
      The-First-James M.
      26 June 2018 @ 13:44
      The music is great. Pretty cruisy for somebody who considers the following heavily melodic: (2:03 in) Can't please everybody on an element that is so subjective. Personally, when it comes to musical taste, I'll take what I can get away with... :)
  • NI
    Nate I.
    5 June 2018 @ 04:49
    Great guest. Hope Des Kinch returns to RV soon. Would have been nice to have heard the questions being asked.
    • MP
      Michael P.
      17 June 2018 @ 03:32
      Agree completely, Des is worthy fo the full Grant Williams treatment.
  • BB
    Blair B.
    5 June 2018 @ 03:26
    Can anyone tell me what file type the Transcripts are in. When I download them on my PC, the file type just displays as "file", and I cant open them. Thanks for any help.
    • FH
      Franz-Xaver H.
      5 June 2018 @ 06:36
      Had the same problem. Don't download. Just view the file first and then save it.
    • SL
      Shanan L.
      5 June 2018 @ 12:27
      It comes down as a .pdf for me, so just change your file name to include .pdf so your computer opens a pdf reader automatically.
    • SL
      Shanan L.
      5 June 2018 @ 12:33
      wow, a 61 MB pdf. I'm not sure why it needs to be such a large file for 14 pages and 9 charts.
    • DC
      Darren C.
      5 June 2018 @ 20:06
      I suspect the file size is due to the color background in the charts. The downloaded transcript was named 'transcript.pdf' on my linux computer.
  • SH
    Steve H.
    5 June 2018 @ 11:50
    Outstanding stuff. Well-reasoned and well worth listening to.
  • VC
    Vince C.
    5 June 2018 @ 07:09
    Agreed with below comments on a good interview. Although I take a different approach to markets the interviewee provides interesting perspectives.
  • FH
    Franz-Xaver H.
    5 June 2018 @ 06:44
    Very interesting to listen. Especially I like some of the charts, e.g. Unemployment / Recessions and Corporate Debt / GDP. If possible, it would be good to include the data sources for further checking and analysis.
  • MK
    Michael K.
    5 June 2018 @ 02:51
    Amazing content for pointing out deep value global single name opportunities. Please do something about the audio. It is too loud.
  • JM
    John M.
    5 June 2018 @ 02:11
    Good interview (I agree with others that the music is horrible). I wonder why Sberbank frequently comes up as a good Russian investment opportunity and not Gazprom?
  • hb
    henry b.
    5 June 2018 @ 00:53
    agree completely with the comments on the music that subscribers have to suffer through. We're dealing with financial presentations & discussion if we have to have music at all please at least try & make it unobtrusive ! Henry B
  • LT
    Lucas T.
    4 June 2018 @ 23:14
    This music is the kind of music that you put in an ad to get new subs...exciting, makes you sit up and listen...Putting it in the actual content is jaring. I think you can take the excitement level down a notch and add in some class.
  • jd
    james d.
    4 June 2018 @ 22:13
    the music is very unnecessary and detracts from the overall great quality of content.
  • NH
    Neil H.
    4 June 2018 @ 20:47
    very well thought out discussion on both his approach as well as his positions. would be interested in how much cash he would raise when the downturn arrives so he does not give back a good portion of his returns.
  • DD
    Daniel D.
    4 June 2018 @ 19:52
    I really like his steady, thoughtful approach. Appreciate giving specific names as well. Thank you!
  • bm
    brian m.
    4 June 2018 @ 19:04
    The Intro music is getting very annoying
  • SB
    Samuel B.
    4 June 2018 @ 18:35
    very sober solid interview
  • JH
    Jon H.
    4 June 2018 @ 16:54
    Please bring Mr. Kinch back soon, and no less than a six hours interview please :) This was exceptionally useful! Thanks!
  • MB
    Matthias B.
    4 June 2018 @ 10:11
    interesting view on the Renmimbi
  • RK
    Robert K.
    4 June 2018 @ 09:39
    Very sober. Nice interview.