A contrarian thinker in the DeFi space, Sean Lippel, partner and head of digital assets at FinTech Collective, joins Jim Bianco, president of Bianco Research LLC, to bring us through the many facets of DeFi with a new perspective. Lippel, a true expert in the field, makes a case for a possible solution to crypto's propensity to volatility, one of the primary criticisms to its feasibility as a standalone currency. Lippel suggests that continued integration of DeFi with real world assets—whether that’s real estate, commodities, business loans, etc.—will gradually reduce the volatility due to the robustness of real world demand. In addition, Lippel shares intriguing insights on central bank digital currencies, stablecoins, and regulation that break the mold of typical commentators in the space. Filmed on July 21, 2021.