Pax Americana in the Crosshairs R.P. Eddy

Published on
February 17th, 2017
53 minutes

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Pax Americana in the Crosshairs R.P. Eddy

The Interview ·
Featuring R.P. Eddy

Published on: February 17th, 2017 • Duration: 53 minutes

Former Presidential security advisor and diplomat, R.P. Eddy, enthralled Real Vision viewers in the ‘Travels with Jawad’ series, with his insights into the geopolitical risks of a Trump Presidency and the retraction of America’s global responsibilities. Jawad Mian’s full interview with R.P. is a potent discussion of US foreign policy and a fascinating portrait of the new power in the White House. Filmed on January 28, 2017 in Malibu.


  • Sv
    Sid v.
    16 March 2017 @ 18:52
    Pax American for this guy is all about the American Citizen having his wealth confiscated to give to foreigners and elites. I have worked with these guys, they have lived thier lives making big decisions for the rest of us, and they think money is unlimited.
    • RE
      R.P. E. | Contributor
      5 September 2017 @ 16:14
      Hi, R.P. Eddy here. You may want to research the work I've done on HIV/AIDS, the Global Fund, peace keeping, the UN etc etc before you make such an errorneous blanket statement. Do I believe the US needs enlightened and benevolent US leadership? Yes, or at least from one or more other nations willing to sacrfice their blood and treasure for a better world.
  • DS
    David S.
    12 March 2017 @ 01:18
    3/11/17. After several months of hindsight, the American government of the people, by the people and for the people has been slowly replaced with the American government of the oligarchs, by the oligarchs and for the oligarchs. The Republican Health Care Act was written by the Health insurance lobbyist. The oligarchs use the echo chambers to "vote" their politicians in office. Many politician in office are now unregistered lobbyist. Back to the Republican health care plan. DLS
  • RR
    Raj R.
    25 February 2017 @ 21:42
    Wow fascinating. Especially the last 15 mins about the Micromedia. It is so hard to figure out what is true and what is not. We live very unchartered territory.
  • DB
    Don B.
    24 February 2017 @ 20:09
    Thank you so much for exposing us to someone who can intelligently discuss past and present geopolitics and accompanying possible or probable causes, threats and future scenarios, and not just someone who tells us that he/she thinks its time to short the yen.
  • TA
    Thor A.
    24 February 2017 @ 14:06
    Extremely interesting but also troubling interview. He is clearly highly connected to the US deep state and intelligence community and thus some of his comments must be considered partially to reflect the views of people within it. So when he says he's not optimistic for his children's future, not to mention him stating that people are now, in the shadows, working towards genetic super humans? Chilling. But a lot of interesting things but miss a discussion of the monetary system which may also face its own revolution alongside AI, genetics and energy.
  • PR
    Peter R.
    23 February 2017 @ 13:10
    I really enjoyed the framework that he views geopolitics through. Great interview, would love to hear more from him in the future. Also, the emerging revolutions(AI, CRISPR, Energy) he briefly mentions towards the end are a topic for an entire video in the future.
  • MN
    Melissa N.
    22 February 2017 @ 23:48
    Good questions and feedback but wow.... Long winded answers. Not enough conversational back and forth. I felt like he was talking at the interviewer instead of with him.
  • TB
    Tyler B.
    22 February 2017 @ 21:59
    Please bring him back for a Horizon Series on Myanmar Commercial Real Estate. Simply reading their brief website ( ) it sounds fascinating. More and more investors are beginning to talk about Myanmar but would be great to hear from someone actually there with boots on the ground
  • VP
    Vincent P.
    22 February 2017 @ 15:11
  • RN
    Robert N.
    22 February 2017 @ 13:58
    Looking back through R P Eddy's tweets (@RPEddy) I was surprised to see his tweet on 3 Feb endorsing torture and the destruction of evidence of the torture (screenshot at Looking deeper into the CIA and similar connections raises some questions about the Ergo network and the kind of people in it.
  • js
    jacob s.
    22 February 2017 @ 05:57
    Ok so he's good but anyone who actually interacts with Chinese nationals knows that the Thucydides Trap is taught at every single university across China. So, for me, he lost a little credibility about any knowledge on China.
  • JS
    Jerry S.
    22 February 2017 @ 04:33
    Impressive guy. Great discussion. (except the brief climate change diversion)
  • LK
    Lyle K.
    22 February 2017 @ 03:57
    Learning new stuff everyday.... very interesting seeing the world from these people's views. Great questions and great answers! Love getting solid information.Very grateful for you guys/gals at real vision and the guests.
  • JS
    Jon S.
    22 February 2017 @ 02:17
    Interesting that he refers to President Trump as having potential for demagoguery and fascist rule. I wonder what his thoughts were on Obama and his first 100 days when he appointed czars. Remember all the czar appointments? I considered czar appointments demagoguery rule. Too bad it was faux pas to criticize the last president.
  • wg
    william g.
    21 February 2017 @ 14:10
    WOW...great interview. This guy "could" be our next President if he chose to run for the office. I would certainly vote for him!
  • JC
    James C.
    20 February 2017 @ 23:34
    Although i disagree with his personal views on the rightness//benevolence of Pax Americana, his comments through the video were very well-reasoned and thought-provoking. A minor correction for the Transcript - Jawad was referring to the "Thucydides Trap" - an observation by the ancient greek historian on the inevitability of a clash between the rising and incumbent power (in his case he was talking about Athens and Sparta). To be honest the part i found most fascinating was his part about the "three revolutions". Particularly his comment on genetic manipulation research to create superhumans being currently conducted in secret. Sounds like science fiction is becoming reality...
  • GC
    Gary C.
    20 February 2017 @ 14:23
    Kinzers book Brothers, or hitman John Perkins book, or Tim Weiners Legacy of Ashes, or Visas for Al Qaeda, or Fromkins Peace to End All Peace. Articulate,Intelligent,but selling his service
  • GC
    Gary C.
    20 February 2017 @ 14:15
    Rex Americana, as in T Rex. Eddy passes over thousands of opinions of architects and engineers on 9/11 as conspiracy. Those looking for those elites he describes in a simpler era should read Steven K
  • GC
    Gary C.
    20 February 2017 @ 14:09
    Agree with Santosh, that the US is the selfish driver of much instability historically, and continues to use myths, like Pax A as justification. Looking through the mist of that myth looks more like R
  • sp
    shashwat p.
    20 February 2017 @ 07:25
    The HIV Medications were actually made in India. The US Big Pharma benefactors were trying to screw with it for a long time
  • sp
    shashwat p.
    20 February 2017 @ 07:23
    Very very good interview. My thoughts on China exactly. Not so sold on Pax American was such a great thing though
  • LR
    Larry R.
    19 February 2017 @ 20:49
    Interesting and provocative interview. An agile and subtle mind capable of intelligent distinctions. However in the end I am with commentator "CM" . This fellow is at heart an "old style" (1940's Ivy League) elitist who is making an unabashed plea for elites to be allowed to run world. He is smart enough to know that the more "modern elites" have made a hash of it, and, for what its worth, I agree with him . "Old elites" were much superior and did a much better job. However,this is not to say that elites are the way to go. Hist lament towards the end of the interview that we are "tossing away elites" was as bald faced a statement of frustrated elites as I have ever seen. Rarely stated so openly. It was not the first clue in the interview however. His description of his work with, and fondness for Richard Holebrooke was the first give away.
  • MB
    Matthias B.
    19 February 2017 @ 20:17
    challenged. not sure whether alternatives would be better but hypocrasy often provokes that ppl go for alternatives. but pls have him back for a review session.
  • MB
    Matthias B.
    19 February 2017 @ 20:15
    helped a geat deal but lately, it was an agressive pursuit of own interests even if it meant to ignore sovereign law with the other side to bear the consequences. no wonder US support in Europe gets c
  • MB
    Matthias B.
    19 February 2017 @ 20:12
    Interesting, informative, thought provoking, different. so thanks to RVTV and to Jawad, great job. BUT, as a non american I almost take offense at the morale high ground. that US benevolence may have
  • sa
    santosh a.
    19 February 2017 @ 19:48
    I really enjoyed this thought provoking interview. In the spirit of debate, while I agree that Pax Americana provided a framework for great rise in living standards in many parts of the world including China, India, SE Asia and Latin America, it also created the environment for hegemonic groupthink among US policy makers, media and business elites. Mr. Eddy's first rule was broken pretty much right in the beginning of the post-war order. The US began to act with impunity in foreign affairs under the rubric of the Cold War. Iran, Chile, Brazil, etc all good examples were national sovereignty was not recognized. In more recent decades one could argue that the US has become the cause of global instability with interventions in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, etc. This instability has given rise to both China and Russia asserting their own interests and pushing back on US hegemony, backed by strong armed forces with strategic nuclear capabilities. Where I disagree with Mr. Eddy is that Pax Americana died a long time ago and has been devolving steadily for many decades. The groupthink among US elites & the MSM no longer represents reality. IMO, what is required is a push for a modern version of the Peace of Westphalia, to bring back stability and recognition of national borders and sovereignty and a rules-based global framework for trading, dispute resolution and conflict resolution. If not, the resolution of this massive global debt and growing wealth inequality, could lead to an incredibly destructive armed conflict.
  • DT
    Douglas T.
    19 February 2017 @ 17:03
    Although I have some criticism below, this was totally awesome. One of the most insightful interviews yet. Keep 'em coming. First, RP neglects to point out the most important aspect of Pax Americanca: the implicit Quid Pro Quo. We keep the peace, in exchange for the "extraordinary priviledge" of the Reserve Currency. No one likes it, but they aren't willing or able, to go it alone. Second, that pact was broken by the neocons, D- students of history who decided "Pax" is for pussies. Its high time the US should use its powers to shake down and intimidate anyone and everyone. W and Obama didn't drift away from Pax Americana, they weaponized it. (Mars Americana?) The Trump revolution is less about Trump than the failure of Washington and the two patries to function. The average guy is the victim and sees it, but the educated left is hopelessly blind. They live on the coasts and are the benficiaries of Finally, he reveres the architects of Pax Americana for their restraint and vision. But he also points out that the world was extraordinarily simple in 1942, and has become unmanageably complex today. We have the equals of those men, they're just too smart to try tackling the impossible. The failure of humaity to see the futility of trying to manage true complexity, is the central philosophical (and mathematical) problem of the times.
  • CM
    C M.
    19 February 2017 @ 14:31
    Excellent interview. I was totally with him until he freaked out because "we are tossing away elite's a dangerous, dangerous place where we find ourselves." Oh dear, are we really to believe that "the elites" (i.e., him) have really done such a jolly swell job during the past 40 years?!
  • HJ
    Harry J.
    18 February 2017 @ 23:41
    Ok third time they, this may be the best interview yet. Thank you.
  • AS
    Andrew S.
    18 February 2017 @ 23:29
    Great, thought provoking interview. I really enjoyed it and agree with most of Mr. Eddy's points and appreciate his insights as an elite insider. However, Pax Americana get a white washing here that has to be called. He gives us the view from 30,000 feet and sure maybe a "benevolent" US running the world probably beats the alternatives. That said, this trifecta of free trade, human rights and democracy that he alludes to as the rules of the game is pretty much bullshit. Pax Americana was basically a construct ( maybe we earned it, maybe we deserved it, maybe it beats the alternatives, I know it did for us) which allowed the US with 5% of the world's population to consume 25-30% of the world's resources and pay for it with "money" we created at will out of thin air ( de Gaulle's exorbitant privilege ). Ask the people of Iran, Guatemala, Nicaragua and Chile about our commitment to Democracy. Ask the Shah of Iran, Somosa, Pinochle et al ( and don't forget Saddam when he was onsides ) about the US commitment to human rights. I assume everyone here has watched Grant's fantastic presentation "Get it. Got it? Good. " It gives a pretty good idea of why Pax Americana is dead and it has nothing to do with a bunch of educated, "enlightened" elites no longer being able to herd the rabble. It is the money. Period. Full stop.
  • DR
    Daniel R.
    18 February 2017 @ 22:57
    Fantastic, enlightening, humble and actionable. Thank you
  • AH
    Andreas H.
    18 February 2017 @ 18:56
    Yep, IT, Biotech and Energy Revolution rattle the world. But I think its going to be positive! 4rth Turnings (started with 9/11) always hurt, after that things get better...
  • GR
    Guido R.
    18 February 2017 @ 15:36
    Kevin D at 16:00 makes a valid point. If the arithmetic was not clear then, it most certainly is clear today. The institutions mentioned by RP as offering stability and fairness are nothing but mechanisms for the redistribution of wealth towards the fiance industry. You see. At some point, someone, somewhere decided it would be desirable to impose this monetary system. There was no debate, no discussion and no referenda. Nobody came out and explained the pros and cons of alternative monetary systems. One day in 1913 in the USA and in 1971 in Europe and then gradually through other countries, we all found ourselves running exactly the same monetary and economic policies albeit, granted, at different points in time. But the same nonetheless. Today, the IMF, the World Bank and the UN are finally and clearly being shown for what they are; that is mere tools to enforce a monetary system that hinges on arithmetical asymmetries that divest ownership from the many to concentrate title in the hands of the finance industry. Another feature of our "benevolent" Western model of government that is not mentioned in the discussion is the parallel governments that have been put in place right after WWII. Gladio being the more notorious and well documented of these parallel structures that have been erected in presumably democratic countries predicated on open society. You know how it goes. You must destroy the village in order to save it. So our benevolent leaders chose to erect unilateral and arbitrary structures in order to protect and save democracy. I grant you of course that, as the typical pyramid scheme, at first things truly seem to afford wealth and well being to willing participants. Trouble is that participants that are drawn in after a while are the ones that will lose everything.
  • SK
    Stephen K.
    18 February 2017 @ 09:54
    RV just lifted its own bar even higher with this one. Bring them back for part II.
  • BA
    Blair A.
    18 February 2017 @ 06:20
    I really dislike these kind of bozos who get their chops in a host of government jobs with lots of "titles" & "prestige" when it is obvious to all of us that these bureaucrats are making it up as they go and learning on the job and ultimately not solving the problems, in fact making most problems worse with all their studies, programs, committees, fellowships, grants. Go away!
  • gb
    gabriel b.
    18 February 2017 @ 06:15
    I have been looking forward to this interview since seeing the portion of it on Jawads travel piece and it did not disappoint. These are two guys I would like to see more of. When I watch someone like R.P. Talk in such depth about these issues it strongly affirms a feeling I have for a long time which is that we need to pay politicians a lot of money to make it competitive with the private sector, and do so while invoking incredibly strict conflict of interest laws so that we can have the best minds get compensated well for coming up with policies that benefit their constituents as opposed to making their money in the private sector. We need the best minds back in government.
  • BM
    Bryan M.
    18 February 2017 @ 05:00
    This is for Jawad: Superb interview man! Very impressive.,.
  • BM
    Bryan M.
    18 February 2017 @ 04:52
    RE KEVIN D: Methinks Kevin that perhaps you have misconstrued his comments about Pax Americana because my take away was not so much what you are saying, but rather that, the leaders of today are not of the same quality as those who were instrumental in the formation of Pax Americana.
  • BM
    Bryan M.
    18 February 2017 @ 04:37
    this is for TSHORT63- LOLOLOL!!!!
  • TS
    Tim S.
    18 February 2017 @ 03:34
    Stop, no more, you're killing me. You need to cut these high-grade interviews with some bubblevision. Indulging in this pure quality material can create medical problems and cause visions of reality.
  • NS
    Nic S.
    18 February 2017 @ 01:56
    Amazing. Thanks rv.
  • MZ
    M Z.
    18 February 2017 @ 01:42
    Skeptical in first several minutes..decided to trust RVTV and continued to watch. am very glad I did. A fair discussion and the "think peice" of how the overall world could be changing since 9/11 and Pax Americana is worthy of more discussion - if not the USA then who? definitely a scenario worthy of more investigation. Doesn't have to be the US but can we imagine a world without a "benevolent USA" - we have seen such a world before. USA is not perfect but please, any up and comers show me your blueprint and goals and not just demagoguery to get elected - i mean a real blueprint and I will be more than happy to look at it. A very good interview with several great pull-quotes. Many thanks to Milton, Jawad and R.P.
  • JS
    John S.
    18 February 2017 @ 00:11
    Awesome interview
  • SR
    Skip R.
    17 February 2017 @ 23:39
    R.P. I wish you were back in the Public Sector and advising our President. Fantastic!
  • dw
    douglas w.
    17 February 2017 @ 23:25
    Jawad is the man. Love seeing this guy lead more interviews! I believe that Republicans and Democrats both have strong viewpoints that can positively effect social and economic well being in the world. Having said that, unless we begin to dive into greater depth about the existing socio-polititcal ideologies that are being shaped under Trump's policies, a true understanding of short and medium term probabilites and its potential knock on effects can not be derived. Keep up the great work!
  • CT
    Claudia T.
    17 February 2017 @ 20:25
    Have him back please! One of the best interviews I have seen on RV!
  • DS
    David S.
    17 February 2017 @ 20:21
    Great interview and historic perspectives - political, social, and psychological. Pax Americana was created by intelligent and critical thinkers. All Americans reaped the benefits for decades. We did not and do not have effective comparable thinkers to help with globalization, the internet revolution, genetics and automation. Several generations of Americans, mine included, killed Pax American in an Ayn Rand, self-indulgent, popularity driven mode without any thought or concern to where America was heading. The results are rule by competing economic oligarchs - whether individuals or individuals controlling corporations and/or governments; American, Russian, Chinese, Korean - and elections fought through bipolar echo chambers paid for by these oligarchs. Best quote for me was "we go to the internet to affirm our beliefs.." Applause to RVTV. DlS
  • NF
    Nat F.
    17 February 2017 @ 20:04
    Series please. We just scraped the surface here.
  • RM
    Richard M.
    17 February 2017 @ 18:21
    Great, great interview! Really enjoyed the insight and intelligent views from Mr Eddy. Since he is an acolyte of the late Richard Holbrooke and probably shares Holbrooke's neocon heritage I'd still like to get his views on the intelligence community feud going on with Trump and the swamp drainers <smile>! Also would love to see him come back on RVTV in 6 months to a year, when many of Trump's ideas will have unfolded, and have him give us his assessment of how things are shaking out and what the future "might be" due to those events! Please try and make this happen!
  • HW
    Harold W.
    17 February 2017 @ 18:15
    One of the Best!!
  • SC
    Shane C.
    17 February 2017 @ 17:10
    Yeah I agree Kevin D. He seems to leave out all of the burdens we bare. He doesn't mention the fact that we are the only country in the world that cares about free trade...the only country thinks it somehow exists...and the only country in the world okay with us compromising to the hilt and trade partner countries not fact actively working against us in some instances...This was a good interview I liked his insight, but I disagree with his thinking..this is old establishment thinking...its over...but than you Real Vision another great interview
  • CH
    Chuck H.
    17 February 2017 @ 17:00
    An amazing thinker. A lot to unpack in this interview.
  • KD
    Kevin D.
    17 February 2017 @ 16:00
    Lots of great insights here, but one big blind spot. Mr. Eddy thinks it is dangerous that ‘we are tossing away elite rule’, as he credits ‘elite rule’ for the institution building and Pax Americana 1942-64 period of relative global stability and prosperity. But ‘elite rule’ of US political and economic leadership of the last few decades has led to today’s problems. His thinking seems to be that ‘elite rule’ is a good in and of itself. But unless and until the ‘elites’ recognize that their policies and prescriptions need to be changed, a return to ‘elite rule’ is not going to mean a return to the wise global leadership Mr. Eddy seems to believe in.
  • HJ
    Harry J.
    17 February 2017 @ 15:47
    Very good discussion. Scares the crap out of me! He could be spot on! Hearing this as a follow on to DDBooth is worrisome. The world better start paying attention or we're in for multiple layers of di
  • TJ
    Terry J.
    17 February 2017 @ 15:26
    Thank you RV for a fascinating and totally absorbing discussion between Jawad and RP. The views of somebody of RP’s experience and clarity of thinking are simply invaluable. I particularly enjoyed RP’s thoughts on pax Americana, and the risks the world faces if the Trump Administration gets it wrong, particularly with China. My one criticism is that neither Jawad nor RP mentioned the phenomenal downside of the Bretton Woods agreement of 1944, resulting in the emancipation of the dollar, which then of course became completely unbridled in August 1971 leading to an explosion in debt and derivatives that resulted in the credit crunch of 2008 that arguably is still waiting to finally play out nine years on. Realistically how can Trump or anyone else square the circle of economic decline as a result of the trillions of fake money introduced by the Fed into the world since 1971? Maybe time for Milton to invite Dr. Greenspan to give his thoughts on this $64 trillion question.
  • RN
    Robert N.
    17 February 2017 @ 15:23
    At the 12:30 minutes to go point, he mentions the third revolution (after Narrow AI/AGI and Genetics/Crispr) as being "energy", which will become "cheap and abundant". This was not explained and seems counter to the analysis of Gail Tverberg (, Dr Tm Morgan (surplusenergyeconomics), and others. I wonder what he had in mind (thorium?).
  • EL
    Elizabeth L.
    17 February 2017 @ 15:01
    Thank you R.P. Reddy and Jawad. This was brilliant. Could have listened for hours. No need to worry about length of time of interview for the viewers sake. I feel we need more of this type of information from persons with backgrounds like R.P.'s. His insights give us framework for global thinking and understanding. His tremendous experience backs the insights he has shared. R.P. Reddy would love to see you talk to us again in the near future. So grateful for your information. Jawad good job.